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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    Aware of him? Yeah. I'm aware of what he and Thatcher did to football.
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    Yes you have. Every time you attend a match you are subject to restrictions on your civil liberties that no other sport or entertainment are subjected to. The punishments you face if you do cause trouble are much, much heavier for football fans than if they had occurred elsewhere. The ability...
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    I agree it's hard to tell but it's pretty clear that if it's not from the court then it's not a banning order covered by the act you quoted. Of course, the club are entitled to ban anyone they choose with a lot less burden of proof than a court ban but the club can't arrest anyone, only the...
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    You wrote this: And I'll repeat... because it's the biggest game of the year for them and they wanted to make a day of it. I've done it before at Palace games, I've done it before at Orient, Millwall, Southampton and West Ham games. Christ, I've done it at so many grounds on weekday away games...
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    Semantics indeed. Happy new year by the way to yourself and your lovely wife.
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    The inference from your quote is that if there was a banning order then the letter would have come from a court because they are the ones who would issue it, not the club and the fan would have been informed of the charge as well. By the sounds of it, this is not a banning order because, as I...
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    The police have dealt with large crowds of high-risk fans loads of times before. We've had Millwall and Leeds at the Amex loads of times. And this isn't the first time that Palace have played at our place. How did the police managed to get the high-risk Palace fans into the ground before the...
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    I honestly don't think this was relevant to the storming of the gates and it doesn't move the argument along either. There was no massive Albion v Palace punch up involving that crowd prior to the gates incident. It came about for a number of reasons but I haven't seen or heard anywhere that...
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    I've posted elsewhere but worth posting here too, I think: What I really don't understand is this - if there is sufficient evidence that a fan has done something wrong to warrant being banned from an entire town then why have no fans been charged for those offences yet? The ban is something...
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    No. Absolutely disagree. Ask yourself this - if you had identified a group of fans that were a high-risk for becoming violent, would deliberately holding them back until after the game had started be more or less likely to increase the likelihood of trouble occurring? As for arriving hours...
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    FAO Merry Prankster: I've tweeted this to the FSF and copied you in. I hope you don't mind but I think they need to know about this too.
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    [Palace] Unwelcome Palace Fans

    So many questions from this. Isn't this a police rather than club affair? On what grounds and under which law is this being used? Where's the right of appeal? Is this even legal? Why were they allowed to buy tickets in the first place? Why is the answer to any problem with football fans always...
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