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Can I ask, as an outsider about the Stoke/Port Vale rivalry? Is it still as nasty as ever despite the difference in fortunes of the clubs? Fortunately, Palace fans kept up their hatred of us despite us being well down the football pyramid until recently but I've got mates who support Reading who...

I suspect that Mullery didn't much like Palace and Venables by proxy. 1970s Palace WAS Malcolm Allison. He gave them success, changed their nickname, changed their kit. It's not the greatest of mental leaps to suggest that Mullery might dislike the team that Allison moulded in his own image...

It wasn't a specific comment. I was just musing on the friction between them two in games where they managed teams against each other.

I love this line from Brian Moore early on: "Another point made by Malcolm Allison in his attack on Alan Mullery was that he too rarely scores goals. Well, the one he scored against West Germany in the World Cup and the one he got against Crystal Palace last week certainly belie that fact."...

I suspect that the genuine hatred between Malcolm Allison and Alan Mullery also helped add fuel to the fire. This is them in 1970, holding nothing back when slagging off each other. Well worth watching if you've never seen it before. Now imagine those two sharing a touchline as opposing managers...