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  1. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    Apparently, this 'literature review' was comprised of reviewing just 5 studies. This constitutes the entire body of work out there. The report says: "Since these studies are not mutually exclusive…it is not unreasonable to infer that the net benefit arising from EU membership is somewhat...
  2. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    I have skim read the entire document and there is no in-depth analysis of this 4-5% of GDP. Instead we have someone inferring from literature review rather than any solid empirical work. Secondly the figure is clearly based on GDP. Now I'm an accountant but I guess most people understand that...
  3. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    I'm not missing the point at all. In every major decision and prediction this century the CBI have been wrong. Their track record in this respect is worse than Mustafa's on here. Given that they were so spectacularly wrong in evey way regarding the Euro why should I now put more faith in them...
  4. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    Really? CBI was wholeheartedly in favour of us joining the Euro back in 98/99. the CBI chief Lord Marshall was head of the Britain in Europe campaign and made all sorts of wonderful boasts about Euro membership: "Prices and mortgage costs will fall, the economy will become stronger and more...
  5. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    Coming from you that's a bit rich. No worries, I think you've overplayed your hand with regards the obsequious support for the EU over the last few months. A euro shop Crodonilson.
  6. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    You've lost me. No idea what you're going on about. Sorry.
  7. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    In which case your scenario is a million miles off and I'm not sure what point you're making. I said that the EU would not stop the UK from joining the EEA, you said that there are current cases that suggest otherwise and these being Switzerland and Norway.....but...but...neither country have...
  8. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    Let's err on the side of caution and double the cost to £150m for the referendum and we would still not be near a week's net EU contributions. Actually, I've just done a back of the envelope calculation: The Scottish referendum cost £13.3M, highly emotive referendum too so fits your criteria...
  9. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    Which current cases? No-one's left the EU yet. And this £30 billion is all attributable to Britain's EU membership, would not exist without EU membership and will disappear overnight if we leave?
  10. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    Net cost of EU membership is £33 million a day*. https://fullfact.org/economy/cost_eu_membership_gross_net_contribution-30887 Cost of last referendum in 2011 was £75 million...
  11. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    Scaremongering of the very worst kind. There's no way on Earth that the EU would not allow it. It would cause chaos in the short to medium term as millions of EU citizens in the UK would therefore not be eligible to live/work and UK citizens ineligible to live/work in EU countries. It would...
  12. Buzzer

    Europe again. Unaccountable and undemocratic. This sums it up.

    No you don't, you have a British, German or whatever passport-issuing country you got yours from. There is no such thing as an EU passport. Any claims to be stripped of a legal identity is in your mind only. Presumably you mean some sort of cultural identity which is a rather odd claim to make...
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