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Ah sorry, I thought you were referring to the European Championship game, that of course was 2000. My mistake. That was a one-off though, we don't usually play like that!

Given the high standards by which you measure England performances I'm surprised you included the Spain (96) and Germany (2001) games!

Again, of course you're allowed an opinion. However I'm baffled as to why you have no sense of perspective when it comes to competitive English performances - especially in knockout football. (Even 'One Teddy Maybank' above can only think of two performances in the last 50 years where we've...

*Sigh* I wasn't questioning your overall knowledge of football. Just your experiences of watching England.

That's my point about being selective. We were shit in the groups in 86 and 90 unlike this time. As I said to Megazone it's all about opinions. For me this is the best, most enjoyable World Cup since 1970., way better than 82, 86 and 90. And yes it'll probably end in heartbreak too, but that's...

Why so touchy? "I didn't realise ..." Of course it's a game of opinions. And mine is that you haven't watched enough England games over the decades. If you had you'd realise that by our, admittedly low, standards that was a good performance. Like I said if you're judging us against top teams...

Not easily pleased so much as the fact I'm 61 and I have a VERY long memory. And I know with England (a bit like with Brighton) we have to enjoy the small successes that wouldn't necessarily please the top nations/clubs.

Yeah, possibly, possibly. However I'm prepared to give him (and Megazone) the benefit of the doubt. Whenever there are England match threads on here they are always flooded with people falling over themselves to say they didn't watch it and they don't care about the national side. Those people...

'Poor' is a relative term. Were we up to the standard of the many great Brazilian, German, Argentinian, or Italian teams of the past? No. Not even close. However by our much lower standards, over the last seventy years of almost constant failure, that was a very good performance indeed, probably...