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I think we're getting off the point a bit and we're going round in circles. No, I think you're wrong and I fundamentally disagree with your views on who pays and what's fair (what about people who haven't got children!) - and building rubbish/rubble is hardly a regular component. So my...

I'm well aware of the difference between capital set-up and ongoing expenditure, I just can't believe there isn't a scheme somewhere to cover it. But assuming there isn't, why couldn't our council have gone down the 'Northampton' route of having just one bin that you chuck everything in, and...

No I wouldn't pay. I used to pay for Magpie, but that was in the 'old days' when there was no other way to recycle plastic. I expect all waste collections to be covered by my Council Tax. And I really don't buy this 'no budget' line. The council have got 8 million quid to alter the road layout...

:lolol: Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh, there are some valid points in your post - but you DO sound a bit like Paul Barber trying to explain away our bad league position just before Hyypia resigned!

I've pretty much (silently) agreed with everything you've said on this thread, but I've got to take a slight issue with this one. Why couldn't they have done what the more environmentally-aware Tory councils did and introduce garden waste collections? I've only got a small garden but it...