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I am not underrating Veltman, just Hinshelwood has better passing ability, vision and can get up and down more. Up against a tricky winger, Veltman has the smarts and experience to better deal with them, by fair means or foul. If Hinshelwood were to become a rightback on a more permanent basis...

I respectfully respect your respectful disagreement.

Hinshelwood is a better player than Veltman, but Veltman knows his own ability and how to play as a right back with those abilities. He won't try to get up the pitch as much as Hinsh, he won't try to make some of the passes Hinsh can make, because he can't.

Very steady for a teenager.

Taking succession planning to the extreme, Barbers IVF program with eggs from Megan Rapinoe and Beth Mead.

Are you suggesting we have some sort of breeding program?

I get not wanting to get carried away, but you were very quick to go the other way and write him off as not going to ever be Premier League level.

I am fairly certain you expressed the opinion that they should not be getting game time as not ready.

And yet, pretty sure you were bemoaning that he and Enciso were getting some game time at first last season.

Danny Hinshelwood is Martin Hinshelwoods son, and is now manager of Selsey, Adam Hinshelwood is Martins Nephew, and Jack is Adams son. Jacks Grandad, Martins brother, Paul Hinshelwood played for Palace and Millwall, and Jacks Great Grandad Wally Hinshelwood played for Reading and Bristol City.

I am wondering if he is really a Hinshelwood, he is the first one that isn't a defender.