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  1. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    You don't need to feel guilty at all, you can feel how you want to feel. You can move on whenever you are ready. But then so can others. I have not read all this thread but i am not sure that the British empire has come into for any extra examination on here. My guess is that in the wider...
  2. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    No you should absolutely not and it is certainly time to move on. However we are on the side of the issue that makes it easy for us to move on. Many on the other side seemingly, rightly or wrongly find it more difficult to move on. This suggests to me that although few people were alive to...
  3. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    I don't agree that colonisation is a regional problem but that is a different discussion The advancement of society is not going to happen without the recognition and acceptance of our past though surely?. There are many people on here who have asked why this act is deemed racist and have...
  4. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    I think your edit kind of answers your own point. White/european colonisation in different form is and was widespread across the globe (and as you point out includes large parts of Asia). I think that the guys comedy routine would not have scanned quite so well if he had chosen to exclude the...
  5. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    I understand the point you are making I am just not convinced that it really had anything to do with what the guy is saying. he is using a fictitious scenario involving a time machine for comic effect to highlight the weight of history that comes with racism. Maybe he shouldn't have involved...
  6. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    No I don't think he is talking about that. He is discussing the idea of reverse racism.
  7. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    To be honest I think you are splitting hairs here in order to wilfully miss the point being made.
  8. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    The trouble with this is that actually systemic racism hasn't stopped has it? The hangover from racism and oppression is still very much with us. I agree that it would be better if people didn't get offended by stuff like this but that is easy to say as I haven't experienced what others have. I...
  9. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    Good for William Bony, he and many others are not going to be offended. Some people however are going to be offended. You suggested that history has no relevance to those people who are offended by this stuff. I pointed out that it is the weight of history that causes some people to find...
  10. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    To understand why some people find this stuff offensive you have to see it in its historical context. People seem to be confused about why people are offended by this stuff, the answer is that within its historical context it is offensive to some. These threads pop up fairly regularly and the...
  11. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    I agree with you to a point if you take away the weight of history however after a couple of hundred years of slavery and oppression I think racism definitely works more one way than the other. As Aamer alludes to here.
  12. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    It amazes me that people still do stuff like this and are surprised by the reaction. Surely by now everyone knows that people get upset about white people blacking up.
  13. BadFish

    (White) Welsh rugby player Liam Williams goes to fancy dress party as...

    the old reverse racism point, personally i think this fella sums it up quite nicely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M
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