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The facts presented earlier on this thread suggested that far more people have left the UK than have arrived so surely most of those facts aren't as relevant as they seem.

We can swap if you like. Tony Abbot is far far worse and has managed to become PM. Terrifying stuff.

I think it would be wonderful if people did disengage with 'this type of politics' but from what I can see there is no evidence to suggest that is happening (not on this board anyway). If you are right and in the rest of the UK people are engaging in intelligent politucal debate rather than name...

No idea apart from that things aren't much different over here to over there. The same discussions and arguments about foreign labour are going on as we speak all over the world.

I take your point on this. However this isn't was i was responding to. My response was about Eastern Europeans going to the UK and undercutting locals for the jobs.

Surely all this needs to be taken within the context of the employments rates of the EU. If everyone is flooding over there to push the indigenous workers out of employment then surely this would show up in the unemployment statistics as a spike in UK unemployment compared to the rest of the...

Like in Auf Wiedersehen Pet?

This really isn't anything to do with the EU though is it? This happens the world over just replace Spain and Portugal with India and the like. The search for cheap labour in a global market place effects every developed country around the world. The question seems to be 'What can the UK offer...

Surely the result of the cheap labour is more about companies breaking the law and employing people below the minimum wage and a problem with the EU directives. Maybe toughening up on those companies and ensuring they pay a decent wage and offer the correct benefits. Thus providing a level...

Trouble is those economic migrants are constantly forced down peoples throats as what the EU is all about. It is a tactic that seems to be working and one that put the benefits you mention into the shadows. People will swallow it hook line and sinker everytime.

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Surely the main parties are very happy for people to ridicule the fringe or minor parties. I would suggest they do get it, they just don't think it is worth worrying about. Never needed to before so why bother now? The arrogance of power perhaps? I think I probably am part of a political group...

I can't help but wonder if you and Looney think that the Greens occupy the same ground at the other end of the spectrum. They seem to be treated with the same kind of distain by the right as UKIP do from the left (On this board anyway). If this is the case then I would agree that such...

It is not what is going on that i was commenting on it was the notion that 'Eastern Europeans have stuffed the English Working class'. You are blaming those who have lawfully taken advantage of the laws rather than those who made the laws. I don't need to live in the UK to see that this is...

sigh........ Oh I see only 'certain' areas which you can cherry pick to support your suggestion about the 'English' working class. Perhaps you should be talking about the Linsolnshire working class or the working class in the other 'certain' areas instead of the 'English' working class.

Yes, bloody foreigner! Bit like the immigrants in Australia going over there, taken their jobs and stealing their women (or Children if you've seen rabbit proof fence)

Eastern Europeans stuffed the British working class? And there was me thinking it was successive selfish governments eroding the manufacturing base and dismantling the unions. But it was those pesky workers from eastern Europe trying to get work all along.