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Not since I have been on NSC :rock::whistle:

Another high quality and insightful contribution from you Pinko, What would we do with out you?

So 'they' are all immigrants of recent times?

Fair play to you. but will you answer just one question for me as I am genuinely interested (no need for lengthy deabte just one question) Are the 'they' which you referred to earlier all immigrants or a subsection of immigrants? If 'they' are a subsection than how do you define that...

Which particular opinion of mine do you think is wrong?

All opinions about immigration on a Brighton football forum count for jack shit doesn't make them wrong.

Living (or loving) in amongst something often gives you a distorted view of what is going on as a whole. What you think is going on and what intuitively seems accurate is often the opposite of what is going on as a whole. This is why we have experts who study the data and investigate what is...

Who are the 'they' group which you are speaking about? You have a ridiculously broad and generalised starting point in this discussion and it is hard to know who you are talking about.

I was looking at graphs yesterday which showed a similar trend for unemployment in general so I would be interested to see evidence about youth unemployment in particular.

A massive generalisation which has been proven inaccurate by a couple of sound studies already posted.

Someone is making the decision about who gets these jobs. The questions is (if indeed your facts are correct) why are they giving the job to immigrants and not to young British people? I would have thought that employers would prefer to give work to Birtish youth instead of immigrants so perhaps...

Oh go on Bushy, let's get it out there so we can see which is most compelling.

Perhaps they see the problems they are faced with and find an easy scapegoat to blame instead of those responsible. Although I agree that the Aboriginal would certainly have a point, but it is not them I am talking about.

I am afraid that the short answer to this is that it won't. People over here still blame immigrants for their woes.

You are getting ripped off but not by a few poor Romanians, Poles or Bulgarians. One thing I am sure of is that those who are ripping us all off will not mind one iota that immigrants time and time again immigrants cop the blame instead of them. a good time for this joke to get another airing...

None of these countries are part of a larger organization by whose rules they have to abide. The point i was repsonding to was that you asked why tightening up immigration rules would mean leaving the EU.

Is this different to the rest of the EU?

I thought that being part of the EU meant that you had to accept looser border controls which allowed freer movement of people across the EU. http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/justice_freedom_security/free_movement_of_persons_asylum_immigration/index_en.htm So it would appear that if the...

Doing this would involve leaving the EU though wouldn't it?

Not really, it has been widely ignored by many as it disproves their little englander theories. I suspect it was written by people who don't live there and don't know what is going on.