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  1. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    To, perhaps, draw a line under this, it has been announced that the FA have upheld the two appeals from Arsenal, and both players will be available for the next game. http://www.thefa.com/news/governance/2014/mar/alex-oxlade-chamberlain-kieran-gibbs-appeal An Independent Regulatory Commission...
  2. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    Thank you. No no! Stop with telling me I'm correct. :wink: The laws of the game pdf from the FIFA website is in two parts: the laws, and the interpretation guidelines for referees. The interpretation section is where they define terms, give examples of what is or isn't offside, and is where...
  3. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    Firstly, having seen the Graham Poll article, apparently I was misinformed by the 5live commentary team, and it was all Andre Mariner's mistake. He has supposedly taken full responsibility for the error. So, unless he is just taking the blame as head of his officiating team, he personally got it...
  4. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    (I hope this doesn't sound patronising, I'm trying to be clear, but I've found that I sound a bit condescending when I do that. I don't mean to, if it does come across that way, I apologise.) You seem to think the player who took the shot and missed had his goal scoring opportunity denied, that...
  5. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    Of course it does. It says "if he prevents a goal or a goal scoring opportunity". Take that in two parts "prevent a goal" To prevent a goal, the ball has to be going in. Or else there is no goal being prevented. "Preventing a goal scoring opportunity" This means stopping someone taking shot...
  6. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    From the laws of the game (page119 (121 of the PDF)) A player is sent off, however, if he prevents a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball. This punishment arises not from the act of the player deliberately handling the ball but from the unacceptable and...
  7. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    It was bending away from goal. It wasn't going to curl in.
  8. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    How was it a clear goal scoring opportunity? If he doesn't handle the ball it goes out of play. There is no chelsea player to get on the end of it, thus no clear goal scoring opportunity, so the only other interpretation is denying a goal, which he didn't do because it was going wide.
  9. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    But it's a red card offence 'if you deny a goal', not 'if you think you might be denying one'.
  10. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    In defence of the referee, it was the linesman who made the call that it was a deliberate handball that stopped a goal and that it was Gibbs, not the ref.
  11. Acker79

    Arsenal sending off- referee says no?

    I don't know if Dig54 is being serious. But as for why it shouldn't have been a red: Because deliberate handling of the ball is only a red card offence if it denies a goal or a clear goal scoring opportunity. If it was going wide (and pretty much everyone agrees that it was), then it didn't...
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