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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    There is enough cumulative evidence and argument to believe that 9/10 economists are right, and the lone wolf Brexiteer economist is misguided. Remainers look at the strength of the arguments rather than get swept away in conspiracy theory level denigration of the entire economics profession.
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    As someone may have said "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    Well we've gone round and round in circles, of course and I take your points. All I can say is if the situation were reversed and 9/10 economists, IMF, OECD etc etc told me we would have a recession if we vote in, costs jobs, investment and so on I would vote Leave with confidence. I also take...
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    Yes fair enough but I feel that remain gives us a stronger position in the long-term to face down the challenges you state. Although I do not agree that EU migration increases inequality. Our higher standard of living will come under corrosive attack from cheaper workers and markets abroad. This...
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    I'm not totally surprised that in Brexiteer La-La Land yes means no, up means down, and recession means growth. I wish I had it in my to look at 9/10 expert opinions and confidently bet the opposite way, but you are totally blinded by your in-built biases - not the collective effort of every...
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    I'm not trying to have it both ways. I can take what he says on board, will Brexiteers do the same for the 90% who hold the opposite view? Which is, as the actual sitting head of the IMF says is "bad, to very bad"?
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    It's not gospel and I know the difference between a fact and a forecast. The way I see it is 9/10 forecasters are predicting rain tomorrow. I decide to bring a brolly. The Brexiteer watching decries the consensus "they said it was going to rain today, and it's sunny!" therefore decides against a...
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    Moreover the proof of evidence needs to be on the party that is determined to throw us off the cliff. You need to convince people that you have a parachute, not denigrate people who know what they're talking about.
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    Nearly always wrong? Why do we bother to have a board of governors for the Bank of England? Why does the US bother to have a Treasury secretary? What does the IMF do all day? Does the World Bank sit around making paper areoplanes? are you serious? You really think every single respectable...
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    Economists are sometimes wrong. OK. Any evidence that these numerous highly respected and super clever organisations are actually wrong? Or do you just want to sling mud?
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    I don't think we will achieve the same living standards for this (mine) generation as the last, in terms of home-ownership, 2 cars etc. The previous generation had it all. All you need to do is look at the share of UK GDP since 1950 and see how it's shrunk(or look at China in the same period)...
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    I don't believe immigration numbers will fall if we leave or stay. If we stay it's business as usual - fine - if we leave we will have free movement anyway as a condition of re-entry into the single market.
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    The EU funds social and scientific research. We are a main beneficiary of this. "The UK received £967m in research grant funding from the EU last year. Since 2009, it has recouped 7.4 per cent of its EU contributions from such funding, the report showed. Over the past decade, EU research...
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    Inequality is a global issue. Increasingly when the economy is growing anywhere it accrues to a much greater degree to a smaller and smaller number of people. You're totally right about wages and the supply of workers. We live in a global market place with ever-increasing competition from...
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    :facepalm: if you truly believe this there is no hope for you. It is simply and factually wrong.
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    The increase in supply also increases demand. If the economy is growing so will wages. When the economy was contracting wages fell. We're on the up again. I know it is counter-intuitive. EU migration — the effects on UK jobs and wages "There is little evidence that more migrants push wages...
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    Across the whole economy wages have fallen due to the financial crisis and not EU migration. Wages are now rising as is inward migration. I'm unfamiliar with the JIB and the training scheme you're talking about. Yes there are examples where it is more cost efficient and effective to move...
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    It's tenuous because the CAP funds don't go to bullfighting, they go to the Spanish farmer who happens to use those funds for bullfighting - apparently.
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    How much is the Referendum Campaign influencing you? NEW POLL.

    I don't avoid answering questions and if you want to talk about desperate examples making a tenuous link between CAP funds and animal lovers is much more of a stretch. Controlled immigration means exactly that. Calde was without a club, an economic migrant. Why would he have been admitted under...
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