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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    This is good stuff. http://video.ft.com/4762665469001/Brexit-debated-Impact-on-UK-economy/editorschoice??ftcamp=crm/email//nbe/FirstFTEurope/product
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    Mostly, they love us. Except the Cypriots, oddly.
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    Also JC Footy Genius will be after you Pastafarian in a minute for this egregious whataboutery that he did me for the other day.
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    Oh right. I'm sure the silent majority of former top brass will shortly stand up and together in collective chorus shout "Cry Brexit, England and Saint George!" any time now :D
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    43 what? Former admirals and generals?
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    If the government position is in, the CS has to abide by that. If the government position is everyone gets a banana on Friday, the CS task then is to support that policy. If the govt position is to stay in the EU, it is the CS task to support that too. They are constitutionally unable to do...
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    You misconstrue what I've said. In or out we are not marginalised in global politics. But our voice and ability to project influence undoubtedly is weakened. We don't individually steer EU policy but we we do use that platform to amplify our position. The EU largely agrees on FP so this is to...
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    I hope and pray they use this as the backing music to their free BBC political advert. "They've taken all our fish" :bowdown:
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    Of course it's not perfect but the EU sanctions have done a lot of damage to the Russian economy, when oil prices are already low its a double-whammy and may threaten even Putin's grip on power eventually. That is real power. Greece or Bulgaria, who have a lot of bilateral trade with Russia and...
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    It's amplified because it represents the voices of 28 states rather than one. This should be obvious to even the most casual observer. We do not need EU consensus to deploy armed forces, but when we want to amplify our voice on any issue we are able to use our membership of the UN, NATO and the...
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    Correct me when if I'm wrong but the Civil Service at a GE prepares briefs and policy papers for all major parties based on their manifesto commitments. Depending on who wins the GE those papers are then put into the CS machinery. This is not a GE, the CS serves the democratically elected...
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    These are all retired officials who have served their country, not careerists mandarins. As they said if we speaking with a unified voice on Ukraine or Syria our message is amplified. For example we have taken a harder line on Putin than many European countries would have done independently...
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    It would be strange for the government to allow the use of Civil Service time and resources against its own policy.
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    Have you read this letter? Can hardly accuse these guys of scaremongering. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/12170385/Letters-In-an-increasingly-unstable-world-Britain-cant-afford-to-lose-the-security-provided-by-the-EU.html Letters: In an increasingly unstable world, Britain can’t...
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    The Civil Service is fulfilling its constitutional duty to support the policy of the government.
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    New Poll. Europe: In or Out

    Some more analysis from the Economist Intelligence Unit. http://country.eiu.com/article.aspx?articleid=863964870&Country=United%20Kingdom&topic=Economy&subtopic=Forecast&subsubtopic=Economic+outlook Top line: "Brexit" is not our baseline forecast. However, if the UK were to vote to leave...
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