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Most, if not all, are simply saying he’s a wrong ‘un. Even you admit this is evident from the tape. Did he rape her? Who knows. Did he act in a truly vile way towards her? Make your own mind up from the tape. To me it’s compelling, and he has not denied the voice is his to my knowledge. As...

I never mentioned the photos. I also obviously know the level of proof required in a criminal conviction. But, sadly, I have heard the tapes and this is enough for me to believe he is a wrong ‘un, if not a criminal. As far as I know he has never denied the voice in the recording is his.

That Sugarbabes thread?

I take it you have heard the audio? I really struggle to understand how it could be considered self-defense.

You have answer my question with a question. I asked a question first. :smile: What point are you trying to make with your (rhetorical) question?

What point are you trying to make here? Can you be clear.

You know the answer to this. The court evidence which was in the public domain is pretty damning of his character. You do not need a criminal conviction to know he is a vile individual. Further, he has shown zero remorse for his behaviour.