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so on that basis we must aways under-achieve as I want expect us to win everything (of course I realise thats unlikely but my mind is set on winning everything)

I never understand the "over" achieve, you either achieve or not.

Thameslink and Southern Rail. (that was a joke by the way). Either expectation or realism. Seems unless you twist the fair play stuff like Man Sh1ty or Chelsea you cannot compete. I'm no suggesting we cheat by the way. A lot has gone well this season its not like we've played in Europe before...