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This is a painful merry-go-round. Undav's rubbish, terrible touch and too slow in the brain to adapt to Premier League football. He can finish when he has time and space and no real surprise he's doing well in a surprisingly creative Stuttgart team but he hasn't suddenly become a Premier League...

Welbeck was, is and always will be a better player than Deniz Undav. He might be doing alright in Germany, but he's obviously not a Premier League player. He has the brain but not the legs, good luck to him in Germany at Stuttgart (beautiful place) but all the talk of getting him back in tickles...

I wonder if there would have been a role for him in this team - we have loads of Chiefs but nobody capable of just playing the width the penalty area. We have more than enough talent outside the box but we need someone making runs in the area and being right at the top end of the pitch. I don't...