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  1. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Still pays for it though.
  2. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    It all started with the Thames Television programme Death on a Rock. Long read https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/thatchers-poisonous-television-legacy-still-being-felt/
  3. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Not all but it somewhat pales into significance into the behaviour of Campbell. I'm not quite sure what your central point and why you disagree with mine. All Governments end up sniping with the BBC both behind the scenes and in public with things they don't agree with. Every few years...
  4. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Possibly now, but remember the Tories have been taken over by an extreme wing. The relationship between the BBC and Government of any flavour is very much that of the House of Lords. Happy all the time their people are in charge and it isn't criticising them. I'm also just about old enough to...
  5. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    The similarity is the rabid response to the BBC. Campbell (unelected) went from from studio to studio attacking the BBC. Even today he is describing Gilligan as "friend of Boris Johnson", he's never got over it. The reality is when the Government gets in a pickle it often gets in an argument...
  6. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Yes and being investigated. The appointment of senior figures needs reform quite obviously and quickly. When politics and the relationship between the BBC becomes toxic its quite easy to figure point at people's previous careers or obvious political allegiances. Whether that be political...
  7. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Technically IPlayer.
  8. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    I seem to recall the Director General was forced to resign.... Quite a telling quote from the NUJ at the time... Andrew Gilligan also went, who ended up working for Boris Johnson at City Hall. Gilligan who Cambell describes as "personal friend of Johnson". I hope that answers your question...
  9. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    The BBC has always had politically appointed figures and ex politicians taking senior jobs. To be fair it wasn't much different under New Labour.
  10. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    On in a couple of minutes, don't blink.
  11. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Anyone else struggling a bit with Alistair Campbell's reaction to all this..... :lolol:
  12. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    There is clear inconsistency as I've posted much earlier, but Lineker as a "presenter" is not consistent with the other examples. Irrespective of his employment basis he has become one of the "faces" of the BBC, a brand ambassador if you like and his salary very much reflects that. He isn't...
  13. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    If you want to highlight three words and remove them from the wider post and context, possibly :)
  14. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Far more easily than you discipline the employed.
  15. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Not sure it actually matters in this example. In terms of "production" (in that what you see on air) a huge percentage are employed on a casual basis. Channel Four is bound by impartiality rules but doesn't make any programmes itself. No-one you see on air is "on the payroll". I personally...
  16. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Nothing unprofessional about withdrawing your labour.
  17. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    I'd think it very odd that anyone would have a problem with them doing so. I reiterate what I said above. If their employee had a problem just separate the channel / platform. "These are my own views and do not represent the views of BHAFC" There is a clear compromise in the terms of MOTD...
  18. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Well there are two points there. I personally think there is far much more to this than any perceived political interference. If you are a large employee if someone high profile "breaks the rules" and gets away with it, it's impossible to enforce them lower down because it gives that person an...
  19. clapham_gull

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Whether you agree with Lineker or not in my honest opinion is completely irrelevant. It's the rules on impartiality that need looking at and it those rules that have got everyone in a pickle. And when you aren't applying them to journalists and are applying them to MOTD presenters, something...
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