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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    It wasn't German. ;) Joking aside, what Lineker said is less important than that he should have a right to say it. However, there has been a pretence from those ready to be outraged that saying 'language like' means the holocaust. That is a huge leap, but one that his choice of language...
  2. Stato

    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Exactly. And in this case, would Lineker be allowed to mention that there is direct historical evidence available to prove that this is as much of a bad idea as it sounds? https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/27/britains-child-migrant-programme-why-130000-children-were-shipped-abroad
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Too late now though. The story that we have a government willing to trample all over the human rights of displaced and desperate people asking us for help is now wrapping that fish. Lineker did them a favour by allow them to distract away from the difficult questions that the BBC etc should...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Sharp's an interesting one. He's doing the bidding of the government in his role at the BBC, but he's also closely linked to Johnson. Presumably Sunak wouldn't be opposed to replacing Johnson's man with his own, but has to balance this with potentially upsetting someone who has given the party...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    "Well Saint, Chelsea's problems under Potter are nothing new and all stretch back to having a forward line of lizardlike replicants from another dimension battling for a Satanic take over of the Isle of Wight." "You kill me Greavsie - You forgot about the Channel Islands."
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Okay, now that fuss is settled, can we concentrate on the actual policy? Is it: a) A dangerously callous and overly simplistic approach to a very complex problem. Seems to be against international law, but even if not, diminishes our country's moral standing in the international community. -...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    I'm not quite clear how you could have paid any attention to this story and come up with a comment that is exactly the opposite of the situation. Nobody has stopped any 'bod', hard working, or not from having a say. The only people that the BBC bosses are saying can't have their say is anyone...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Check out the date of the response to the Chris Packham complaint that @Thunder Bolt provided earlier: That would be after the rule change that you are referencing. Even with the tory activists in charge at the BBC, it seems that left to their own devices, the BBC would have dealt with this...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    As @Thunder Bolt has repeatedly pointed out in this thread - Neither is Lineker. He's a self employed contractor.
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    And Neill was working for the News / Current Affairs department where the requirements are much clearer. The issue here is that those in power are using their positions to defend and promote their own agendas. They have appointed fellow travelers to run the BBC and they will not brook any...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Corrected for you. Lineker didn't support Sunak or agree with Fox. There is no hypocrisy except the imagined hypocrisy in the hypothetical offered. Nobody knows what the reaction of any of the players would have been in an invented scenario. In honest debate, you can't invent a hypothetical...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    That particular whataboutism might not immediately fall flat on its face if it were not for the evidence that only one type of free speech is actually under threat. Nobody has pulled up other BBC stars not working in current affairs for their spouting of unquestionably party political messages...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    It just says that I grew up in the eighties. If you want your union supporting quotes from other sources, there are a couple of 100 years to choose from. Try the Tolpuddle Museum. https://www.tolpuddlemartyrs.org.uk/story
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Motivation doesn't matter. Solidarity matters. An attack on one worker's free speech is an attack on everybody's. All stand together and all will benefit. Or, as beloved old leftie, Stephen William Bragg put it: "There is power in a factory, power in the land Power in the hand of the...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    All of the obvious replacements seem to be ruling themselves out.
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Well done Shearer. It must be a bit embarrassing for serious journalists who have been silently compliant with the organisation's political takeover to see a bunch of footballers having the backbone to say 'up with this I will not put.'
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Good on Lineker for not being cowed. Good on Ian Wright for sticking by him. Annoyingly, though I'd find MotD less annoying without Lineker's bad jokes and golf club joshing, I won't be watching it all the time the BBC bans him from doing his job because of his political opinions on a matter...
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