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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    I still hold on to David Hare's characterisation of the British: they love three institutions: the monarchy, the BBC and the NHS. I love two of those and, as they say, two out of three ain't bad.
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    R4 and R6 for me too.
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    You might not have acquainted yourself with The Bear Pit. Off the back of your post, I went to retrieve this for your delectation and, in doing so, found that the last post on it was four days ago: https://www.northstandchat.com/threads/defund-the-bbc.382561/
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Enjoy the horlicks. And thank you for owning this thread. Valiant work.
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    It was a stripped-down reverse-lockdown: crowd noise, but no commentary, instead of commentary and no crowd noise.
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    A question: on more than one occasion you've mentioned 'your government'. Which one is yours? (Wales?)
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Hope all is going well. As you've pointed out with the unclear guidelines, the BBC doesn't even know what 'due impartiality' means. And that's because it's ultimately meaningless. As pointed out previously, it's 'due impartiality' and the way in which it's wielded that's causing the BBC its...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Thanks for posting this. It's precisely the issue: the BBC has become supine and has basically given up. I haven't been following things online, but we really need to start a campaign, something along the lines of: Bring our Broadcaster back under Control -- BBC or BoBbuC -- with #DavieOut...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    I'll have a go at this, although I'm not an historian, nor an expert in 20C Germany. There are a few differences: -- the Nazis persecuted those already within Germany as the issue of immigration wasn't as hot a topic as it is now -- the Nazis' language was more extreme (eg vermin and other...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    There's probably a job waiting for @Wokeworrier at The Daily Mail or GB News. We're very lucky to have him.
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    My sole point is that you and @Weststander and one or two others are getting all uppity about Lineker and that, if all this uppitiness is to have any credence whatsoever, you'll need to point us to some posts where you've got all uppity about Alan Sugar expressing political opinions or, what is...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    I think I largely agree with you on this. Dyke made the clear distinction between news presenters and those covering wider, cultural output (which would include Lineker and Sugar), and that needs to be applied. Then, in terms of news/politics/current affairs broadcasters, the notion of...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    I'm not surprised Halligan says that, he likes to be contrarian. The data on housebuilding in 20C is widely known and key info widely available. See, for instance: https://fullfact.org/economy/house-building-england/ Also see this, which is interesting. Key chart is on p31 to indicate...
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Let's see if you can work out which policy caused this?
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    Yes, it was that. But 'the centre' took sides, and facilitated Hitler's rise to power.
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    They haven't lost their impartiality. They never had it for the simple reason that it's impossible to be impartial. What's tragic about one of this country's greatest institutions is that they've surrendered.
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    [Football] Gary Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD

    If you can point to any posts in which you've criticised Andrew Neil for wearing a Adam Smith Institute tie on the BBC, and blatantly pursuing their agenda while on the BBC, your contributions to this thread will have some credence. FWIW, I agree with your criticism of the association Lineker...
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