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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    No I will listen to all involved, which is as it should be. Prior to the Me Too phenomena the wealthy and powerful perpetrators were either never accused and if they were the accounts were ignored, which was entirely wrong, since then the position has been reversed to a point where it has become...
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    How the heck is anything I have said victim blaming? I have stated on multiple occasions that Johnson should have been charged. At no point have I made any concessions toward his actions or suggested that she was in any way guilty of causing them, what I have questioned is whether after a...
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    You are completely twisting what I have been saying, at no point have I suggested there was nothing to complain about, quite the opposite in fact. I see it this way if you keep expanding the scope of a term it becomes watered down and almost meaningless. Like I have said he should have been...
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    Well if true he is a domestic abuser. My comments have been based on what Bruce said and the possible reasons for her saying them. I will qualify this by saying that because someone writes a book or for that matter says something does not make it accurate by default.
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    Utter bollocks, as I said he should have been charged with assault causing grievous bodily harm. I guess you chose to ignore that.
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    No I can't to any of your comments. Nouns like drug user, thief and domestic abuser infer repetitive behavior. For example It is utterly ludicrous given the context of a person who takes a couple of puffs on a joint once in their life to label them a drug user, in fact it belittles the term. The...
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    Really? Someone makes what are essentially unsubstantiated claims, the target of these claims decides to ignore them and this means they are guilty by default. Are you serious?
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    Great point, was it murder, was it manslaughter was it justifiable self defence? If you are found guilty of murder then the convention is that you are a murderer, if you murder more than one person you are described as a mass murderer, child abuse also has the same distinction, commit one act...
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    Wow. At no time have I even slightly excused the action. Rather the description. If I hit a bloke smaller and weaker than me am I a man beater. Or have I acted like a prick and need to make some sort of restitution. If I continue doing this then cowardly violent bully comes to mind, but...
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    So a quick search and all I can find is a book by Tom Bower, do you have any links documenting her making these claims. And as to labelling someone a Thief for a one off shop lift is a tad extreme. You would be guilty of theft but I don't think the label thief is appropriate as again it strongly...
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    Oh how droll. :rolleyes:
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    Really? lets say two siblings get into a row and one gets punched does this represent sibling abuse or is it well out of order but a once off all the same. I am not defending what happened rather putting it into context given the accompanying evidence, as was Bruce
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    And you have evidence that there is a pattern of domestic abuse or are you just making assumptions to fit a narrative you like
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    Try reading what I wrote then get back to me when you have worked out what I am saying
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    [Politics] Fiona Bruce. Please let this be the end.

    Ok after watching that clip and at the risk of being slammed I would like to comment on what I perceive to be Bruce's motive. Johnson is described as a wife beater, which brings with it the connotation of someone who repeatedly and systematically abuses their partner, Bruce is pointing out that...
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