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Thanks, that explains a lot.. the problem I have is that so often it seems that only the worst beer that a brewery has in its range gets produced in big numbers. Fullers had some crackers but mostly all you can get on draught is London Pride and ESB....used to love Bengal Lancer..apart from...

I was pulling your leg a little, the bog standard bitter was a bit ordinary but I loved Festive !

I did plug Goldmark Brewery earlier in this thread, here's today's offerings on tap.... Prices per Litre including plastic container....I notice that Middle Farm charge quite a bit for the bottle now btw.

Sounds like they got the old King and Barnes spot on then ?

If should be cheaper than pub price I saw an invoice at my local micro pub once for a 72 pint cask that was something like £85...at Goldmark I pay £5 a litre including the plastic bottle.

Sad day but tbh, i'm part of the problem. i don't get to go out drinking as much as i used to and I can't justify the journey to partridge Green and back given the off dales price they charge. Genuinely not drank a Dark Star beer for about a year now, don't even see their decent beers in bottles...