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  1. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    All draft is brewed in Rock, bottled in Burton.
  2. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    It's a shame about Chapeau. It does though highlight the ever changing position locally. While some wanted to hit back at Asahi and to a degree what I posted yesterday. There's plenty of small breweries around and while some are developing craft style beers that are borne out of the new hops...
  3. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    No Doom Bar is the same recipe but the brewing process has changed slightly. With the decline in ale drinking as a whole, NSC appears to buck that trend, to appeal to the younger drinker much the same as Guinness Molson Coors decided to chill Doom Bar down to 8 degrees. The problem then is...
  4. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    Doh. Yes Firebrand is down the West
  5. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    Only bottled Doom is brewed in Burton, all cask Sharps is brewed in Rock Also https://www.inside.beer/news/detail/uk-spanish-brewer-damm-buys-former-charles-wells-brewery/
  6. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    We were lucky to have WJ KIng for a while with Horsham Best (Sussex K & B) and Red River (festive). Good old Bill King, now co-owner of Firebrand
  7. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    K & B Sussex was far better than Harveys. They also originally brewed their old for Harveys. I enjoy an Old and Bitter (pint of mother-in-law)
  8. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    Battle brewery is worth a visit they have a bar in the high street Battle as well.
  9. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    I was with Molson Coors when they bought Sharps. They successfully sent the brand countrywide. What it tastes of each very much up for debate. The issue for real ale is its locality and its customers. The difficulty is taking it out of area. I, like many ale drinkers, don't look for a national...
  10. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    Harveys are happy to remain the size they are. FST houses in the main still have full Fullers branding. Some of the back Street local pubs in and around Portsmouth are de-branded.
  11. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    It is sad but the original owners are to blame. As you post you'll just go for another local brew that takes your fancy much like those on social media. You, me everyone may not like it but it's a big business decision. Much like all these "craft" breweries they eventually either get bought or...
  12. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    Site in London is owned. A little perspective the sales of all Dark Star are less than 0.5% of the sales of all Asahi products in the UK. The FST contract is about 3% of sales in the UK. Peroni accounts for around 70% of profits in the UK.
  13. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    But that's what's happened since beer was first brewed. if you look at history of breweries they have always bought other brewed and slowly cherry picked. I think where beer is concerned, and I mean ales, supporters of those are always worried that they will disappear or be bought. There is in...
  14. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    I did go to Ansty as I owned pubs in the area at the time. I also went to Partridge Green. I know what passion was but as I stated it wasn't Asahi who sold the business was it? FST had previously bought Gales and shut everything down. It's what breweries do. I would have done things slightly...
  15. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    Much the same as most of the Beer brands.
  16. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    Who sold it to FST blame them don't blame Asahi they bought Fullers. I grew up with King and Barnes, I knew Bill King, he never wanted to sell but the Barnes family did. I was devastated when it went. But out of that you got Hepworths and King & co. Both started their breweries in Horsham.
  17. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    Asahi bought Fullers, Dark Star were owned by FST so became part of the deal. FST was already brewing Hophead at Chiswick due to the capacity needed. Yes it could possibly be brewed back at PG but then you're massively increasing the cost of transport etc, that doesn't meet the current green...
  18. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    If it had stayed in Brighton you'd have a point but it moved around Sussex why? I haven't got an issue with a brewery moving all that's happening is it's being moved again. That is the point I made it has not had roots since Brighton. Hepworth's moved from Foundary Lane Horsham to its current...
  19. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    Interesting how you define Dark Star's life cycle. As has been indicated on this thread, people are quick to criticise, point the finger at big companies. In this age where many get their information from shit sources then quote these as fact. I could bore the arse off everyone about this a I...
  20. PILTDOWN MAN

    [Drinking] Dark Star to leave Sussex

    You are very wrong
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