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Welbeck can't be put in this conversation and certainly not alongside Murray. He's only scored 30 EPL goals in the last 12 (twelve) seasons.

Not for quite some time. Sure, it took some of the harder of thinking among us, a little longer to get their heads out of a lower league football mentality, but I believe even they've been on board for a couple of seasons. The impossible ask, and certainly one I'm guilty of, is that of having...

I'd love for you to find a poster who's been asking for any more than 15 goals, from any one player, since we've arrived in the EPL.