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You're right about the demographics, there is an issue to do with the changing "class" of our fans, but more than that it's about age I think We lack young fans. That 16 to 25 demographic, that are pretty stella / testosterone fuelled. They make a noise, but with that comes an edge. We have...

Dear Tony I'm too much of a plastic fan to do any singing. With that in mind please could you write out another cheque for x million to put a false ceiling on the amex stands so I can hear the ones who do a bit better? Yours sincerely .... Nobby

This is it. I don't buy that the problem is to do with stadium design or people not being sat in the right place. When we want to make a noise we can. The solution is nothing more complicated that you and I and everyone else on this thread taking a bit of responsibility and singing louder...

If you don't think the atmosphere is good enough, sing louder. Plenty of people moaning about it while expecting everyone else to do it for them. I've got a sore throat after that so reckon i did my bit