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I don't think anyone is denying we have an issue with the main groups of singers being disjointed and the atmosphere at times, I think it's more that people are pointing out that we are certainly not unique in terms of atmosphere. Far more clubs have issues with atmosphere than don't in this...

It does though. Fair few games under Hodgson on telly last few seasons where the ultras went very quiet in the home ends when things weren't going their way. Our game there last season they also went very quiet as we dominated the game (albeit without sticking the ball in the net). It really...

Most teams full stop really. Selhurst fell very quiet last year when we were dominating possession, as another example off the top of my head

I agree, I don't think it will work, which is a shame. I was just pointing out what I thought macbeth meant

I'm guessing macbeth means I'm terms of singing groups altogether rather than spread across different parts of the north

Score and suddenly they've woken up agaim

Just watching west ham Liverpool. Atmosphere not great considering the game and scoreline in west ham's favour. Liverpool losing and not had much of a sniff of goal, and guess what... The scousers are rather quiet.

As is the case with most sets of fans in this country. As Swansman said, its a cultural thing, hence we've never never gone in for ultra style support in this country, bar a few hundred youngsters at a few clubs.

It is cultural differences at the end of the day. Having been to a fair few games abroad, I'd say we're more involved in what's going on on the pitch than in other countries, hence atmospheres ebb and flow with the game. Last night was so turgid to watch - it went very quiet. Suddenly a bit of...

But all grounds will have stands where the punters are much quieter types than the rowdy, more passionate fans. I've been to games abroad where I've sat amongst fans exactly the same as you describe. Difference is behind the goal is constant noise. We are always told Selhurst is a brilliant...

Yeah the Geordies were mostly decent folk I thought. Do find them a bit tiresomely cocky though. Yes you're a big club with a big following (but not the biggest in the land as one group tried to inform us), but is it really any surprise when you've got so little around you for 100 odd miles in...

Maybe something in that, but then I really can only think of one ground in then prem currently that I'd say has a mostly decent atmosphere, and that's Leeds. They have an away-style following across the bottom tier behind one of the goals, which also happens to be next to the away fans to the...

First half was OK but died out as the game meandered on. Second half was dire like the game; frustration and boredom grew. You could probably hear the Geordies tbh - they were pretty loud for good parts of the game, bar towards end of the first half when they likely got frustrated with how...

Mustafa seems to be ignoring these facts about most other grounds in this country (it's not even just a sanitised premier league thing either, lower leagues too) to suit his agenda

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Give over. What's your opinion on the posts on this thread saying that it's the same at most other grounds in this country? As I said earlier in the thread, Anfield last week, shyte. Been to St James 4 times, shyte every time. Could go on

East end of the north, and actually you're right, Lamptey did get in behind more than I remembered. The ball across the box that looked like it really should've been finished but two of ours didn't reach it especially. My memory clearly blurred by how bad the second half was.

It was so frustrating that we had the pace of cucurella and Lamptey on the wings yet barely managed to get in behind them. It's never easy to break down teams that defend as Newcastle did, but feck me passing the ball around the back as we did today at walking football pace was never going to...

It really was a turgid watch. Frustration grew quickly, understandably so. As others have mentioned, I thought the atmosphere was decent enough till towards the end of the first when the game went really flat, and got even more flat in the second half. Only the drama at the end woke the fans up...

Football fans (home at least) are largely reactive to what goes on on the pitch in this country. Has been the same for donkey's at most grounds. I wish it wasn't, although I don't particularly like the European style droning either, but that's the way it is I'm afraid, at the Amex and the vast...