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The problem is that, fundamentally, as football fans we want to watch the team on a Saturday afternoon (ha!), play well and sometimes win. We want to be able to do that in an affordable fashion and many of us want to do it within a febrile atmosphere. Win and we go home happy, lose and we go...

It's unbelievable really - I'm reminded right now why I rarely listen to football on 5 live outside of the commentary itself - Talking about a victory for grass roots fans etc etc, I've seen people on here celebrating this 'win' and our belief in the football pyramid. A few things - 1) Does...

Yep - This was all planned wasn't it?? Pressure UEFA in to the CL changes and then appear contrite when they all, coincidentally, withdraw from the ESL within house of each other....

The problem is that you're seeing things from the perspective of someone from the UK who happens to be a football fan and one who supports a team in the PL who happens not the be in that group of 6 - There are many more people in the world (obviously) who don't fall in to those categories...

I totally agree, I was just using a probably quite bad analogy - 'Future' fans don't care but they do pay.

In fairness, that is the PL in a nutshell - I know many of us are still the old sulk from Saturday until Monday if we've lost types but in a lot of PL stadiums now that are many that already talking about who's going to win on Strictly tonight by the time they leave the stadium. Problem is for...

100% This - The premier league was created to maximise revenues and to move away from the more egalitarian principles of the former football league. It was never anything to do with the good of the sport or improvement for the fans etc etc, it was and is all about the money of course. That's...