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Well, I've offered an example of how to distinguish them. I appreciate that it's not been too popular, but no-one really has offered up an alternative. Does this mean that they are indefinable because, if it does, they're surely redundant terms that we should consign to the dustbin of history...

Another good response, and there's much that I agree with in here, but also stuff that I disagree with. I won't unpack this, as I've got work to do.

1, I wasn't speaking about capitalism 2, neither capitalism nor socialism value anything; they're not agents.

Good response, although I disagree. Would you consider fascism to be of the right (and, if not, why not?), because if it is, then you can't align the right with freedom. Freedom is a highly contested term, and I don't think it defines the left-right distinction. Broadly, I think the left are for...

Any other good adverts (and, as much as that sounds like an oxymoron, it isn't) you want to share with us?

Me too, and I think we should point this out to them/their fans when they join us on Sunday.

I'm going to defend goldstone, although he (and I'm sure I've got the sex right here) can speak for himself, this minor tweaking of the ASA is more appropriately aligned with the left rather than the right, as the left are interested in equality, whereas the right are interested in inequality...

Bernard Manning :laugh:

Jim Davidson. Michael McIntyre. :laugh: