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  1. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    Hi, If in a few months time you're still weighing things up, but deep down are still very unhappy with work, I would say make the clear cut decision to get out of estate agency as soon as possible. A cliche, but life really is too short. You owe it to be kind to yourself. 36 is bloody young...
  2. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    Bricklaying was always considered, officially, to be a semi skilled trade. In reality an experienced bricklayer who cares about his work is a skilled tradesman. Especially if they have more to their bow than knocking up lookalike boxes for the large housebuilders.
  3. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    I escaped from the working life you mention, in my 40's. All the same things - unpleasant superiors, brown-nosing, stayism (working very late) by the most useless creeps, staff blamed when clients left as they couldn't stand the boss, gossiping. Wearing an uncomfortable and hot suit. Through...
  4. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    I remember the near impossible task of getting a 'Statement' - for some needs it can take years while your children's childhood dwindles away, plus the specialist solicitors charge £20k in fighting a council. In the end many parents who are middle or higher earners give up and go private with a...
  5. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    Agreed. When I mentioned plumber / sparks, I know it takes time at a proper college, plus hands on learning a must. Heating engineers then have to keep up to date with technical updates.
  6. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    I've worked with a few too. When I first met them in their 30's they were close to retirement they said. Put paid to by a combination of a divorce or two, unexpected recessions (aren't they all), private school fees, amazing holidays, a wife who loves interiors with the house altered every few...
  7. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    That's been said forever. "I'll only work in The City until I'm 35, save like mad, then retire". In reality: 1. HMRC grab 40% of gross pay. 2. To cheer themselves up from the horrendous commute and pressure, people's spending goes up commensurate to pay - clothes, meals, holidays, fast cars...
  8. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    Nonsense. There are highly paid people, trapped with huge financial commitments, or under immense work pressures, who take their lives or otherwise harm themself.
  9. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    Briliant post. I had colleagues so unhappy with their job/boss, for years, decades even, who wouldn't leave because of the OK money and because their negative parents had told them "Better the devil you know" or "Careful jumping from the frying pan into the fire". They described Sunday's as...
  10. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    I'm really glad that's worked out for you, plus time with your kids is priceless. [Without prying, I hope your family, with the needs you touch upon, receive the support you might need from the state. Although I'm not a party political leftie, a civilised society should direct adequate...
  11. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    Negative, but true. There are much better building trades. A friend also told me recently that his brickie mate has just passed away from skin C.
  12. Weststander

    [Misc] Career change at 36

    Hi, I have experience of both building including bricklaying, and a career as a professional. I can completely understand your views on selling, and agency. Agents have told me of the relentless pressure, the daily meetings at 8am in the ‘shops’ where the same crap gets discussed every day...
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