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Agreed. I don't think it's an easy thing to do, they're rich and have the world at their feet. I think it starts from the owner - only they can insist their club has a good culture with decent core values. Even then they'll have the odd player who behaves poorly, and it's not great business to...

Probably the best signature on the board. Yes your club does make an impression. A really poor one.

I asked you if he didn't take off his belt, why did the bouncer have it - you don't seem to have an answer for that. Maybe because you were talking crap: So will you change your plea loz?

He admitted it wasn't self defence.

Or how about just walking away? And people who end up having to defend themselves do not then plead guilty for an offence, as they haven't committed one. Maybe it's par for the course for a Palace player, but it's not acceptable behaviour elsewhere.

If he didn't take off his belt, why did the bouncer have it? He got arrested and pleaded guilty to a section 4 public order offence. How is that a non story? It's not the sort of thing that would ever happen to most of us?

So if someone was rude about you or your misses, you'd take your belt off and start assaulting people with it? Defending yourself (or your Mrs) is one thing, but that's clearly not what he's done.

He plead guilty: "He admitted a section 4 public order offence of using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with intent to cause fear or provoke unlawful violence". If he was just standing up for himself, he'd have plead innocent wouldn't he. So WTF are you talking about?