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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    What has Bong's character got to do with the possibility that he may have misheard?
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    You seem to be misunderstanding. Just because Bong is certain he was not mistaken, does not mean he was not mistaken. There's not enough evidence either way. No one's said that Bong thought he had misheard.
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    It also hasn't been said anywhere that Bong wasn't mistaken. There's not enough evidence either way.
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    The decision is correct because there isn't enough evidence to say that it occurred. Of course that doesn't make Bong mistaken. But HJ hasn't said that. Simply, Bong MAY be mistaken, he may have misheard. It's not that hard to mishear things. No one's ever going to know. And I don't think its...
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43350597
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    Firstly, the criminal law 'reasonable doubt' requirement is unipolar, in that a person is proven beyond reasonable doubt to have done something. This doesn't mean they are proven beyond reasonable doubt not to have done something. Secondly, this isn't a criminal law case, and so it won't need to...
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    This is why I said I didn't understand. Maybe people really are that stupid. :mad:
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    I thought that could not possibly be the suggestion from tweet as it's absolutely LUDICROUS to suggest "you're black and you stick" is interpreted differently in France and the UK due to cultural differences. Whatever way you look at it, it's racist.
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    I think if that were the case it would have been mentioned on SFR Sport where they go through what happened, including the gestures. And if that was the allegation, Rodriguez wouldn't have been charged. Further, on SFR, Bong says "after that, he said some words that I will not repeat on...
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    The evidence the criminal justice system would require (beyond reasonable doubt) and the evidence the FA would require (on the balance of probabilities) are different. Recall the John Terry case.
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    Can't be very good lawyers if the intention is to prevent his defence.
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    What has that got to do with racism? There's loads of players who are in the ref's ear every game, but what quite that has to do with the potential to make racist comments I'm not quite sure.
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    What about Rodriguez's attitude at the Amex suggests he might racially abuse another player?
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    There's so much guesswork and assumptions in this thread. I doubt we'll ever know what actually happened, although you would think the FA would have some additional evidence to charge him. Some years ago, Ramires of Chelsea thought he heard Mark Clattenburg say "shut up, you monkey" to Obi...
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    That quote is in the Birmingham Mail article, which provides a slightly different translation of the original SRF interview: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jay-rodriguez-charge-gaetan-bong-14152258 A longer quote provides a slightly different context.
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    The second source is the same qoute as the Independent article I referenced where it indicates Rodriguez did not repeat what was alleged to have been said, but something else. The first link is translated differently and unclear, but I would trust SFR's translation more as they are the original...
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    What? It's the same interview quoted differently. If he tried to limit the damage then of course that suggests he didn't repeat what was alleged to have been originally said. He repeated something else, as Bong suggests.
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    [Albion] "You're black and you stink" Rodriquez comment to Bong? - FA say not proven

    That quote is different from the quote sourced from the Independent, which says: This suggests that Rodriguez didn't repeat the alleged remarks. https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/jay-rodriguez-racial-abuse-gaetan-bong-west-brom-vs-brighton-fa-charge-a8201326.html
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