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IF Bong didn't mishear, as was mentioned in the report - it is a very odd sentence structure for an English-speaker to say though. It's that factor, and Rodriguez's absolute insistence that he didn't use those words (and yes, he may well be a bit of a tool, but that doesn't make him a liar)...

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Option 1 - can you imagine? haha, it'd be XXX rated! Option 2 - I actually think that's not a bad idea, but I think you're right, the authorities would never go for it and it would probably end up in legal challenge mayhem.

As a side note, I wonder if this incident and outcome will change this stupid 'speak behind your hand' behavior in sport. If you've got nothing to hide, i.e. you're not talking tactics, then why do it if it leaves you open to the possibility of a 'not proven' rather than 'not guilty' outcome if...

Agree with that 100%

That may have been the best approach I agree, but, taking these two possible scenario's that a) he didn't make any reference to colour or b) he did, but has been lying ever since to cover his backside, I think anyone in that situation would be tempted to claim that they have been exonerated, I...

What did you expect him to say?

Trouble is, all evidence in these cases also relies on another unreliable brain function - memory, in this case memory of what was actually heard / said. Our brains are wired to form memories that create a narrative that makes sense to us, and this is not always 100% what actually happened in...

No. Why is this so difficult for some people to understand? Someone can genuinely hear something different to what was actually said. That is what 'mishearing' is by definition. What is heard and what is said are not always the same. Hearing relies on the brain interpreting sounds and forming...

And for absolute clarity on my part, so do I. Does that mean Rodriguez actually said what Bong heard though? Maybe, maybe not.

And that's fine. I accept all 3 scenarios I described earlier are possible, but if I had to weight any of them I would rank them in this order: Neither are lying - most likely Rodriguez is lying - next most likely Bong is lying - highly unlikely That's not because I'm a Brighton fan, it's just...

I'm a manager. If one of my staff was 100% sure they heard a racist remark I would support them in the process to take that allegation forward through the correct channels. That is what Hughton and the club have done. I am not calling Bong's character into question so please don't insinuate that...

No I am not, I'm saying there is a possibility Bong was mistaken, that's very different. Re-read my posts and you'll find that you are wrong in that summary.

Exactly, and Noob doesn't seem too interested in proof but is more interested in claiming, bizarrely, that there is NO possibility that Bong is mistaken.

French? No. French speaker? No idea. Could Rodriguez have been making a racist / nationalist remark in that context? Yes. Could he have been just making a remark about Bong's breath without it being intended as racist / nationalist? Yes. Only Rodriguez knows for sure. You can either decide that...

Bizarre. All I'll say then is I hope you never sit on a hearing / jury where you have to be fair and impartial and make a decision based on evidence rather than emotion and what you want to believe.

I'm sure this has already been posted on here, but there are 3 possibilities - Bong didn't hear what he says he heard = possible = Bong is a liar Rodriguez said what Bong says he heard = possible = Rodriguez is a liar Bong thought he heard something that Rodriguez didn't actually say = possible...

You've lost me now.

I've read it. I've been 100% sure I've heard things before and been wrong, that doesn't make me liar, doesn't make Bong a liar, and crucially doesn't make Rodriguez a liar either. He MAY be a liar, but it is not proven, so therefore the decision is correct, surely.

So you accept then that it is possible that Bong misheard? It's not a numbers game.