Err...no, not in the slightest. Because the FLA is not the answer to extremism. Its not the answer to anything. From what I've seen and read, its EDL-lite. A pseudo right-wing organisation which is preaching anti-terrorism (well DUHH), whilst providing a valid "cause" for right-wing...
Well, Wookiee certainly seems to be fighting a lone battle here tonight, the rest of the FLA advocates all seem to have melted away for some reason.
Anyone else want to affiliate themselves with the FLA rhetoric quoted in that video of the march, or defend it ?
Extremists living amongst us do not all walk around with "I AM AN EXTREMIST" t-shirts on. You seem to think our security and intelligence forces have a very straightforward job in identifying the next suicide bomber,the next bloke who's going to jump in a truck and mow down pedestrians, the next...
Agreed, the rhetoric and reaction there is genuinely disturbing, I've seen speeches and rallies like this in WW2 documentaries - I thought we lived in more enlightened times, where we've learned from the horrors of the past and would never repeat them. This is the thin end of a very thick wedge...
I want intelligence services to act when they have garnered sufficient evidence to warrant it. You seem to be advocating a carte-blanche approach which involves dragging all suspects from their beds and locking them up or deporting them. Is being a suspect enough ? I thought we needed something...
Having watched that video, its even worse than I thought.
"We want all non-British citizens who pose a threat to society to be permanently removed from society. And if they're suspects, so what ? They're not British citizens, get them out of here".
*Hoooraaayyy. OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT*
"We...
"The goal is to raise the issue of 'All forms of extremism' to the government, not as a political movement, but simply as a voice of the people of the UK"
Not too vague then. Do you think the Government are aware of the extremism issue ? I reckon they've probably heard of it you know.
"The FLA...
I don't actually believe that these football fans have the knowledge or wherewithal to judge whether the government and security forces are doing enough to counter terrorism. How on earth can they, or any of us know ? But if that's the agenda, then it would be useful for the FLA to publish a...
I'm not trying to occupy any moral high ground. I've made an attempt to understand the objectives of the FLA and the marches, and what they are trying to achieve. Nobody here has been able to nail that down. In my opinion the marches do more harm than good, and I'm dubious as to the true motives...
You've stealthily clipped my quote there. What I wrote was "marching against a religious ideology that wants the entire western civilisation destroyed for the creation of a worldwide muslim caliphate state" - and all the way along in this thread, we have been talking about EXTREMISTS. That is...
Oh apologies, so its not a march against islamic terrorist extremists / ISIS then ? Well I've completely misunderstood, its so confusing. Who exactly ARE they marching against then ?
Is it fans of Ed Sheeran ? If so, I'm IN.
I think its odd that football firms have taken it upon themselves to get involved. Whats football got to do with it ? If you're going to march against extremism then go ahead, I just don't get the link, or the point of representing football against terrorists, any more than I would milkmen...
Oh blimey, this is the real PPF. Ok. Do you really think these marches will actually do something to help PREVENT the next terrorist attack ?? Please do explain, I'm all ears.
Christ. I can't really explain this any clearer. One more time, for the hard of thinking. I've acknowledged that not...
I acknowleged that not EVERYONE who marched with the FLA is necessarily a yobbo. But as I also mentioned, an aspect the FLA are keen to promote is the notion of firms of rival football clubs all coming together in a non-violent way in order to "stand united against extremism", whatever that...
I'm asking the question because a march against extremism (to me at least) doesn't have a point, because there is absolutely no chance the people they are marching against, or trying to influence, will be in the slightest bit influenced. And do we really need awareness of terrorism ? It gets a...