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    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    It seems that 221 other labour MPs voted against it too, and all the SNP. http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/division.php?date=2014-05-07&number=266&display=allvotes&sort=vote Party Majority (Aye) Minority (No) Both Turnout Con 264 (+1 tell) 2 0 87.8% DUP 4 0 0 50.0% Green 0 1 0 100.0% Independent...
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    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    Is cracking down on their propaganda not their propaganda though? These people attract other people by saying “look at how bad off you are, it’s because you aren’t allowed to follow the Quran, look we aren’t even allowed a flag, join us”. Maybe this is the right/best approach in the long term...
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    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    It just sounds like a hopeless situation. Some Muslims are so angry and disenfranchised etc. that some other Muslims (presumably once young and angry) telling them the Quran says killing non-Muslims is the right thing to do, means they go and do it. You aren’t quickly going to change people’s...
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    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    So is anger is the difference then? That’s what differentiates one Muslim who doesn’t blow himself up from one Muslim who does blow himself up? If so why are they angry? Just to be clear, I dont have an agenda, I'm just trying to understand this situation.
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    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    This is key IMO. We should be trying to differentiate and understand why most Muslims are decent, law abiding and compassionate human beings who choose to ignore the more juicy bits of the Quran, from those Muslims who are ***** who who chose to blow themselves up at concerts. Being Muslim...
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    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    This maybe true, but then why doesn't every Muslim murder, crucify, chop of the hands and feet and/or imprison those who don't believe in Allah?
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