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  1. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    Those places you refer to are the entire world. The apostasy death sentence applies to every single Muslim and remains as a immutable directive from Allah (via the prophet) which even the Muslim Council of Great Britain and equally "moderate" mainstream Imams refuse to remove from the...
  2. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    Threat of jail? More likely that most Muslims choose to ignore the more juicy bits of the Quran. I am also pretty sure that most Muslims are decent, law abiding and compassionate human beings. My issue is that mainstream Muslims will often try to deflect any and all criticism by claiming that...
  3. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    Don't worry. I had already discounted him as a tit.
  4. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    Not entirely true. Manchester OB have no record of any calls to them about Abedi. I wouldn't trust the local Muslims who claim they did. It's not credible I'm afraid.
  5. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    Well done, you spotted the deliferate mistale. I meant Jews don't try to actively convert non Jews to Judaism. Christianity's preferred method has (mostly) been aggressive missionary tactics. The sword thing has rarely been used. One thing unique to Islam is, of course, the death sentence for...
  6. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    I think we're arguing over semantics. Waging war or not believing in Allah and his messenger amount to the same punishment. I guess my point is that the verse 5:32. Killing Muslims= bad and 5:33 killing non believers and "mischief makers" = good is the crux of this. In any event I don't think...
  7. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    Nope. It is exactly this that I keep referring to. Anyone who interviews a Muslim cleric who tries to employ these weasel words and wilful misinterpretations should be properly equipped to debate with them. What happens instead is we are fed a watered down version of Islam making us overlook the...
  8. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    You'll be lonely then. The election is on Thursday.
  9. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    The next verse 5:33 goes on to exhort the slaying of non Muslims... Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who believe not in Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off...
  10. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    I was referring to this interpretation of 5:32 .....Sa`id bin Jubayr said, "He who allows himself to shed the blood of a Muslim, is like he who allows shedding the blood of all people. He who forbids shedding the blood of one Muslim, is like he who forbids shedding the blood of all people."...
  11. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    Oh, and another thing...this morning the first of my challenges materialised with a bearded Imam was wheeled out by Charlie Stayt on BBC breakfast to issue the usual statement "Islam says that he who kills one man, kills all of humanity" which is a very long way from an honest interpretation of...
  12. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    The "crusader" thing is a very interesting point when it comes to Islamic Jihadi theology. Most fail to realise that the Muslim expansionist "crusade" began in earnest in the 7th century and moved from its base in Mecca to eventually conquer the Arabian peninsula which, until then.p, was...
  13. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    Really? Well, who'd have thunk it? Muslims lying about being good citizens? No. For shame.,!
  14. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    That, sir, is a little bit of genius. Hat off. I suspect that this, plus a shitload of sexual repression, is the cause of most Islamist aggression. Sexual enticement is certainly a main tenet of Islam. Which other monotheist religion offers such eye watering amount of fanny upon successful...
  15. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    I'm just guessing but I imagine British humour is something that Islamists hate. In that case I'm all for it. We've a proud tradition of laughing at existential threats to our way of life from Napoleon to Hitler. Should we all sit at home grizzling then?
  16. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    Word. If the EFL was in charge of challenging Islamist terror the answer would be shown on TV once or twice a year and Brighton would lose.
  17. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    My original post quote. Came from the Andrew Neil interview with Corbyn. Here, I've cut and pasted for you from the transcript online. Google yourself silly mate. "AN: But I’m struggling to find the role of foreign policy. You see, Islamic State was founded well before the invasion of Iraq...
  18. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    I challenge you this. Sometime in the next few days there will be a vox pop in a Muslim area with a big crowd of beards in attendance. The debate will go thus. "Of course we condemn these acts but this is not the fault of Islam this is the fault of a few militants who are nothing to do with...
  19. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    You clearly don't understand the issue here. Consider this statement from Al Baghdadi the Islamic state "caliph" in January of this year. "You infidels will blame your foreign policy for the fact that we hate you. Your foreign policy is not our fundamental issue. We hate you despite of your...
  20. Leighgull

    police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

    I think you'll find that the local fascists were out least night, stabbing girls in borough market and running over pedestrians on London Bridge. It seems that someone does not understand what the word fascism means.
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