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Oh, I absolutely agree, yes. Palace play-off - the only way I could get my daughter to the game. Villa - similar. I could get an away ticket for me, but not for my kids, so it was the only way I could get them to the game. Barnsley - a bit different, it was a chaps' day out.

I was going to post something similar when Gwylan mentioned being able to drink in your seats at rugby, but not at football. My experience of hospitality is that a blind eye is turned to drinking - just pour your drink into a coffee cup or similar and kick on.

Oh, and a box (ie not 1901) at the Amex as a guest of Lenny Rider. Really enjoyed it - decent food and I like the view from the boxes - the shallower viewing angle, compared to front row WSU, was more to my liking. I've never been in 1901.

Only a few... Palace for the play-off game. Box behind the goal above Palace fans. Nothing special, really. Tensions got quite high on a couple of occasions and Simster luzzed an inflatable seagull down onto the Palace fans below. Villa a couple of weeks ago. In their version of 1901, I...