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Could well be true. Wagner is trying to play it down and pretend that his side should have been aiming for top 10 only. It would be nice to pile a little more pressure on them.

They had a dodgy ref against Brentford, but that didn't stop them. On the contrary, it helped them a great deal that he didn't give Brentford a penalty in the dying minutes.

You know what 'minimum' means right? KJP was suggesting that Huddersfield would do better than any team did last season, as a minimum.

Oo, the swift pedant - I like it.

You said "fourth is the best we can be", which is just silly. We could be fourth, but the best we can be (if on the same points as 3rd) is 1st. No I didn't make it out that it's a cert, I simply said "If you offered me the same number of points as the team in 3rd, I'd take it." Obviously I...

What? If we're 2nd and they're 3rd, on the same number of points, how is 4th the best we can be?

Huddersfield are not going to overtake our goal difference though.

No, if we have the same number of points as 3rd then we're probably 2nd.

Agreed. The goal posts have moved. That's not giving me comfort, they've won 8 of their last 11, including games against the rest of the top 6.

So win 5 and draw 2, that's 17 points and puts us on 91, 2 behind Huddersfield.

If you offered me the same number of points as the team in 3rd, I'd take it.

So you think Huddersfield will get 8 wins and 3 draws, or 9 wins, from their last 11 games? Minimum.

It's like having a woodpecker in my head. There will be some good teams missing out on top 6 this year, and those that make it will have earned it. Top two is currently looking like a few points more than last year.

What if we don't think that's enough? Top 6 points this season after 36 games: 1. Newcast - Played 36 = 77 points 2. Brighton – Played 36 = 74 points 3. Hudders – Played 35 = 68 points 4. Leeds U – Played 36 = 65 points 5. Reading – Played 36 = 64 points 6. Sheffield – Played 36 = 62 points...