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there's the issue, the binary grouping - believer or heretic. the problem is that while one can accept the initial premise "humans are significantly contributing to climate change", the degree of this contribution and its outcome are not fixed, hard facts, but a series of predictions and...

you dont agree with someones politics, so you they cant be reasoned with on matters of science? do you not see how ridiculous that is? that wiki list of people with objections to IPCC kicks off with David Bellamy (literally wrote the book The Greenhouse Effect), includes visionary Freeman...

the VW issue highlights the problem. this wasnt an isolated policy from our government, it was a general european wide policy to promote diesel on the basis of better CO2 emissions. meanwhile they didnt pay as much attention to other pollutants. thats why they are in trouble in the US and...

i thought we were ahead of agreed targets, so slowing the rate of change to avoid unnecessary costs and energy capacity shortfalls.

you're arguing against the environmental lobby thats saying it is the increase in diesel vehicles. lorries and buses in particular are much cleaner than years gone by and most have to meet stringent emissions to even be on the road any more. in the same period, city air quality has...

i didnt say they should, only noting the road bumps to renewables and reducing energy consumption, much is already in progress. but some want more, sooner, irrespective of consequences. causing problems like increasing city pollution from the promotion of diesel becuase its more efficient...

thats the thing, it is logical to follow that train of thought, until we find theres a couple of economic problems. firstly those renewable energy sources are not free, cost quite alot to produce and maintain those panels and turbines. the costs have now reduced for some solar and on shore wind...

the recent air quality deterioration was brought on by sustained high pressure bringing over polluted air from the continent. all that industry in Germany isnt emitting fairy dust. and long term problems in cities are with the soot from diesels, heavily pushed in europe to reduce CO2 output...

upto 120 years ago the consensus was everything moved through the aether, despite increasingly the emprical evidence conflicted with that. once it was proven to be wrong, science came up with new theory about the underpinnings of the universe and went onto great discoveries. earlier work...

in your knee-jerk reaction to my post you seem to have inferred an awful lot into my statement that i didnt say. i only objected to "scientific fact" being so loosely attributed to an area where the collection and presentation of data is heavily caveated with probability in original the...

before the widesread use of renewalable energy, how would you have generated all the power all those electric cars? electric cars of decades ago would be milk floats, and even today offer significant disadvantages to petrol. hardly being held back, there's been desperate attempts to promote...

too much manipulation of data, unverified models, political interference to throw "scientific fact" into it. probability rules environment science, not hard empirical evidence from repeatable experiment.