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  1. spring hall convert

    The rise of the far right

    Hence my use of the phrase 'alt-right' salutes. I was lightly poking fun at alt-right being the new term for neo-nazi's. Or maybe neo-neo nazi's
  2. spring hall convert

    The rise of the far right

    Relevant to this thread. Thomas Mair found guilty - no medical evidence submitted (i.e he is sane.) Homegrown extremist. "Judge Mr Justice Wilkie said the murder was carried out to advance a political cause of violent white supremacism, associated with Nazism."...
  3. spring hall convert

    The rise of the far right

    I sometimes get the idea that people think Hitler won the German election saying he was going to start a **** off World War and exterminate the Jews. He didn't. However, it was all there in Mein Kampf.
  4. spring hall convert

    The rise of the far right

    Socialist: A governmental system that advocates community ownership and control of all lands and businesses rather than individual ownership. Your beef is with liberalism Liberalism: Liberals believe in government action to achieve equal opportunity and equality for all. It is the duty of the...
  5. spring hall convert

    The rise of the far right

    I think it's about understanding why the left has lost these people. The working class in America and the UK has never been and isn't en masse, liberal. They identified with socialism because it made sense to them economically and the 1970's versions of those parties, whilst being more liberal...
  6. spring hall convert

    The rise of the far right

    You mean liberal politics. We haven't had a socialist in charge of this country for nearly 40 years. Socialist: A governmental system that advocates community ownership and control of all lands and businesses rather than individual ownership. Liberalism: Liberals believe in government action...
  7. spring hall convert

    The rise of the far right

    Please note, I am NOT comparing what is going on at the moment to Nazi Germany but an awareness of history is fundamental here. You are I assume aware that people had 'had enough' in Germany in 1933 as well. Hitler seemed a reasonable alternative in the 1933 General Election to the 43.91% that...
  8. spring hall convert

    The rise of the far right

    There you go, you can do it! Fair enough. Perhaps, you're right but it is very much understandable why people get their knickers in a twist with regard to stuff like this. I genuinely don't understand the mentality of someone who makes that salute, if I were part of a movement that has far...
  9. spring hall convert

    The rise of the far right

    Feel free to start your own thread rather than derail this one. You would concede that, removing this from whataboutery for one second, it is a little concerning to see people 'sieg Trumping' unchallenged in a supposedly semi-respectable policy forum. I'll await your latest 'whatabout' with...
  10. spring hall convert

    The rise of the far right

    Check out these alt-right salutes at the National Policy Institute http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/
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