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Has anyone received an email from Southern/Government with details of how to apply for the 1 month refund of a season ticket yet? I recall that they were going to be sent out in mid-January but I've not heard anything.

I went to the midnight showing of Rogue One at Waterloo with my sons. After the film we wandered down to Victoria to get the 4am train. The very first train. Waited on the train... And waited and then at 4.20 the driver said the train will not be running. No explanation, nothing. So we're...

You know those cop films where there is a misanthrope detective who plays by his own rules and doesn't need a partner? He does all his best work alone and isn't afraid to bend the rules to get results - that's Thameslink driver. It's Lethal Weapon 2. He's basically Mel Gibson, the guards are...

Thameslink still use a lot of older trains that they recycled from Southern.

What do you mean there's nothing to indicate if sickness levels dropped or remained high afterwards? Southern have said it, the unions have even said it, us commuters know it for a fact because we've been moaning about it for months. Its probably the only thing that all sides are in...

Eh? They only published May's figures but according to the unions and Southern sickness rates have remained high throughout the strike. From that I'm going to take a leap in the dark and guess that sickness rates were still high in the following months.

Yes. I'm bloody well aware of that but if sickness rates were high when there was overtime and remain high when there isn't overtime it suggests that there's a problem not related to frigging overtime. Comprendez?

But sickness levels remained high according to the unions.

But according to the unions and a leaked memo published in all the papers at exactly the same time as the published figures, there was effectively an overtime ban.

No. They phoned in sick. The Southern Rail bulletin states that quite clearly.

How do I get through the barriers with an out of date ticket?

Where SOME of the extra days have come from. Yes, Southern cocked up here as they have cocked up many things but 1 in 6 conductors had sick leave in May. That's exceptionally high. It's clear that the unions have used sickness as a weapon against Southern and exploited the new rules.

No. I'm saying that Southern published sickness rates for a single month. . There's no point trying to infer that there were normal levels of sickness in the preceding or following months just because Southern haven't published the figures for those. Even according to the unions it's still...

If you read the figures they put it in context with pre-strike. They also state that 1 on 6 called in sick and I think I calculated it as over 3 days sick on average for each employee in a single month. That's abnormal for any business. We've had all this debate before anyway. Go back and...

I know who I'm inclined to believe that when it comes to those figures. I'm a commuter and I know only too well how often trains were cancelled due to sickness over that period. And further proof is Bozza's point that even the union is acknowledging that sickness rates are/were currently...

Yes they did publish them. It's still on their website. https://www.southernrailway.com/mobile/news/southern-releases-conductor-sickness-figures/

Hang on. That's not true. Southern even published the sickness rates in May, I think it was, and there were on average 3 days sick for every person. It was debated in this very thread.

Looks that way to me.

If there is one thing that is clear from this thread is that the guards are at least partly to blame for this mess. This doesn't take away anything from Southern's general incompetence but the guards are in no position to be claiming any moral high ground.

Not surprised. Anyone who travels on a train from H Heath to the South Coast that doesn't have a guard on it is putting their lives at risk.