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To be honest, I take with a pinch of salt what Simon Jenkins says about the NHS. He is not a fan and as far as I'm aware, never has been so will always try to put the knife in. Yes there was a pay rise back in 2004, 'the New Deal' but it wasn't the intention of it stop doctors working weekends...

Looks like a dead heat to me. One doesn't know the truth when it's staring him in the face. One doesn't know reality when it's staring him in the face. One doesn't know there are alternative opinions and one just doesn't know.

Lets' make it easy for you then. Where have the doctors said they want to stop working weekends? They know the profession is required to work weekends and they know they will work long hard hours so I don't quite fathom your last sentence above.

Do you actually read or understand what others have written. Your post is drivel doesn't address my quote at all so I'm not clear why you bothered including it! Where on earth did I or anyone else suggest doctors wanted to stop working weekends? As for the headline offer, that is to...

How are you measuring the Private sector against the Public sector? In Sept 2015, there were 5.349m employed in the Public sector and 25.953m in the Private sector according to the Office of National Statistics.

In the private sector and employer can't just impose a contract on you. You might think they can but there are things you can do. As for the Public sector, does it not occur to you that they are already working under a contract. Don't forget, a contract is an agreement between two parties...

Disregarding the fact I mistakenly quoted dollars instead of sterling, I was being facetious in response to Guy Fawkes.

Probably because I worked it out in dollars but didn't convert!!!! Oops

If you fall ill at the weekend, you will still get the treatment you need at that time. Germany's tax revenue is 40.6% of GDP and ours is 39%. Seems the answer is simple then. raise income tax and spend the extra on the NHS!!!! Not sure on my maths but that could be an extra £47 billion on...

I might be wrong but I think Ernest is on the side of the doctors.

Have you got any stats to back up your assertion that most people don't worm Mon to Fri?

In an ideal world maybe a full 7 day week NHS would be a reality but it will cost a lot more. Junior doctors, consultants, nurses, cleaners, managers, lab technicians, porters, etc etc. However there are plenty of services available at the weekend already. It is mainly elective surgery that...

i brought it up but not with reference to it excluding you from unsocial hours. That't what you introduced.

Between 2011 and 2015, Germany spent 11.3% of GDP on health whereas over the same period we spent 9.1% http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS

Who said years of training should exclude you from working unsociable hours? None of the arguments about the Junior doctors is about them not working unsociable hours. Where did that come from!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35557135 Oops.

Whilst I agree with your last comment, as a nation we pay a lot less than most for our healthcare service as a percentage of GDP.

True, but did they have to undergo 7 years of training to get to that position and do they work 60 hour weeks etc. They do an important job but you can hardly compare the two.

There may well be other people working 60 hours a week but how many of them are making life or death decisions. As for reasons, the vast majority of people that I know that work in the NHS, both doctors and nurses, enter and remain in the service mainly for vocational reasons rather than...

Either I'm missing something or that makes no sense. According to you, they still have to carry out more operations with the existing staff before they see any savings which can then be invested in more staff/facilities, if there are savings to be made!