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Rebranded as just Virgin Trains and double bollox as means will probably not bother

Sky dicking around with KO times is going to be a major issue soon for away trips like Hull as they are bound to be on the TV and may well mean not being able to go, grrrrrrrr :angry::angry:

Not as simple as it is colour coded and I have seen people picked up going into WSU and told to go to the ticket office to upgrade

I would agree, I cannot see for one minute you would get a refund

Is it stated very clearly when they announce renewals this rule or buried in the small print as I am inclined to just get an adult ticket as opposed to U21 ?

I am going to have this problem next season with youngest going to Uni and therefore becomes an U21 but will be away quite a lot of the time. May think this through and perhaps just upgrade to adult so someone else can use it.