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The seventies more generally constituted the shift, rather than 1979 specifically, and this is generally regarded to be a shift from Keynesian economics to neoliberalism.

Of course. Both Trigaaar and Mustafa have been saying that humans have a particular 'nature' or 'essence'. Trigaaar says that we're competitive; Mustafa says that we're altruistic. I'm saying that we're neither, because we don't have a nature or essence. This is because we possess agency, and...

This is what I said: "Both yours and Mustafa's. Because humans have agency, to transport them out of any nature that you or Mustafa choose to impute to them. Your notion of a growing economy rising all boats is naive too." Because I disagree with the essentialism that you and Mustafa espouse...

Go back to the post you're responding to, and please explain how you've put those words into my mouth.

Both yours and Mustafa's. Because humans have agency, to transport them out of any nature that you or Mustafa choose to impute to them. Your notion of a growing economy rising all boats is naive too.

You're as bad as Mustafa on this. Two sides of the same coin, but the same argument.

Free education and healthcare aren't in The Communist Manifesto. That sort of idea had featured earlier in Lewes-resident Tom Paine's works, however. And to reiterate an earlier point, you're not going to get anywhere by appealing to some human nature that you -- and 'red-in-tooth-and-claw'...

Good memory jog. I remember the breakfast pie. With Harveys. It also brings to mind that cottage pie pie, with the mash. Divided opinion, but I liked it.

Not forgetting that their economy has shrunk by about a third, they've lost the provision of universal healthcare, wages have slumped for most by about a half... Yet most on here seem to think that the Greeks should just accept this, and suffer further bouts of sado-monetarism.

How about pastry and sausage combined into a roll?

You mean 'loaning' rather than 'handing out', don't you?