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oh, its the tragic bottle-job, with yet again, another post that has no relevence to the thread....well done..pussy. Shouldnt you be busy, archiving, and indexing your 'links' to NSC conversations over the last year? haha...you tragic ****. Your admission of this, is seriously, THE most tragic...

Was taught in signals school that it was the Union flag, and the jack is the pole it flies from, but so many people call it the union jack now, its seen as the same thing. Before the time in the navy, I called it the Union Jack as well

Union Jack is the pole the Union flag flies from, on the front of the ship, when in harbour.

and ask them if they have an 'agenda'

There's 'made up' stories as well as 'agendas' ?? Brilliant.

Its 'right-on' being wary of association with far-right, racist ****nuggets? Cool. They even have an 'agenda'? wow!! Tell me about this 'agenda'. Sounds facinating.

No, there is nothing racist about either flag, but plenty that is racist from groups hi-jacking our national flag. Hence the reserve about it amongst some people. Like I said, its a shame these groups havnt created their own flags.

Was kind of referrring to people in the UK..... Ive actually heard somebody say 'i hope nobody thinks im a racist' whilst attaching a St George sticker flag to their car...sadly, it happens... Most people from abroad would think the Union flag covers all....I saw one flag seller in Brazil...

NF, BNP have traditionally used Union flags, as they are looking for votes in areas other than England. EDL, and MFE, tend to fly St Georges Flags... and many people are, sadly, wary of being associated with our national flags, because they would hate to be identified as followers of any of...