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I think I have heard of this. A good thing indeed.

If you cannot grasp the difference between a worker putting a few grand into a pension scheme or dabbling in stocks and and a global institution having billions of pounds worth of holdings in global corporations then I cannot clear anything up for you. You think the church brought shares in...

Channel 4's Factchecker website. Its all on public record though.

A common misconception, It does own a VAST property portfolio, however, from 2012 the Church had just over half of its assets invested in UK and foreign company shares, private equity investment in non-stock market companies, and fixed-interest bonds. Their non-property portfolio includes...

What a bizarre question that you clearly already think you hold an answer to. I mean seriously, If you are going to throw yourself into a debate you need to urgently start thinking things through. The Church of England has huge assets as well as large responsibilities. In 2009 it lost £1.3...

Good point. Another point is that the church holds shares in such organisations and therefore is part of this sector.

Ah, that makes sense.

Quite, If you weren't a productive, able, loyal Aryan who fitted into the Nazi ideals of looks, behaviour and ancestry in all likelyhood you would be murdered. He probably hated religious people too though the little prick.

The holocaust was not a religious thing at all. Most wars are about territory and power. A few Khat munching warlords may try to justify it by spouting religious rhetoric but that's BS. Money, power, land, women. Which is oddly what the corrupt element of the church is after, except they prefer...

I know there are some good 'uns out there. Didn't mean to insult your people, it was more an illustration of the gap in wealth etc.

Yes, the churches are magnificent buildings. I know a fair bit about the personalities of senior church members thanks. Among many church members in my family, my Uncle is a Canon in Belfast, my Grandfather was the Dene of Belfast and my Great Uncle was The Archdeacon of Belfast. Their family...

Christmas is of course a Christian festival. It is, if I'm not mistaken, to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, none les than the son of God. I think it's a shame that The Spring Awakening and other such festivals to celebrate life, nature and the earth as a whole at this time of year were...

The whole no marriage and celibacy rule for some members of the church is not in fact to keep them pure for God, married to God etc as the Church espouses but to ensure there was no wife or children for them to leave their money to and left it all to the Church.

Yes and No. A lot of the 59% ticked Christian because they had no other true option. Most people in the UK are assumed to be Christian or are just born a Christian as it were. It doesn't mean they have any interest in the religion.

13% Practising Christians. The question on the census asks what religion are you? In a white, Anglo - Saxon environment I would expect nearer 80% to say Christian rather than 59%. So, in short we have 59% that say they are Christians and hardly any that bother attending Church.

Yes, you are right it can and does operate in community centres, so why do sections of the church need so much wealth? It's proven it can be done without the money. Well, as I said, the upper echelons of the church are profiteers and happy to let the community leaders and estate parishners...

I thought their God provides? He's certainly been very generous thus far. On a serious note why should a faith have to "operate" in the first place. You believe or you don't. Hold your sacraments in a community hall not a priceless building filled with gold and silks. Just a thought.

If the church is such a force for good I'd like to see them give up their wealth and tax breaks and seats in The Lords and property and see if they feel so strongly that they could sustain faith and a congregation that they'd be willing to do so without the accumulated wealth.

Yet you've posted on it 7 times in under an hour. Actually I don't think this is a particularly anti Tory thread, anti - Cameron certainly, cannot stand the man but couldn't stand Blair either and the church had just as much influence over the Labour governments at they do the conservatives...

Faith schools are just another form of socially selective schooling so they will always have people wanting to go to them and seeing as only 13% of people in the UK call themselves Christians I imagine most of those pupils consist of the children of parents who aren't the least bit religious.