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I wondered why it seems impossible to buy a white Lonsdale t-shirt nowadays without a big lion on the front and Sports Direct logos on the sleeves... :down:

Not really. Just a commitment to get beyond the hype and the mythology that tends to grow around subcultures, such as mods, teddies, old school hip-hop, casuals, punk, especially when it can be used to sell a product. Just because it isn't about accepting a narrative at face value, it doesn't...

Having now read the whole thread fully, I'm glad both banned users had an opportunity to express themselves. There is something to be said for challenging the increasing romanticisation of the casuals scene, although I wouldn't particularly choose the antagonistic method of The Truth. Similarly...

If length of bans are not mentioned, does that indicate they are both permanent bans?

Isn't the reasoning meant to be disclosed on Moderating Decisions?