[Football] league matches in the usa?

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US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
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I'd guess it would be decided on previous season finishes, so 1st v 20th (or team coming up via the play-offs), 2nd v 19th (or Championship runners up) and so on. The games would be neutral venues so all teams would still have equal numbers of home and away games. So based on current league positions would give you:

Arsenal v Leeds?
Man City v Ipswich
Liverpool v Leicester
Villa v Forest
Tottingham v Brentford
Newcastle v Everton
Chelsea v Fulham
Man U v Wolverhampton
West H'aa'm v Palace
Brighton v Bournemouth
That feels a lot like just giving the top 3 teams a bonus 3 points in the table.
 


Beanstalk

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Apr 5, 2017
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Some background:



Note: I do not understand at all how a competitive 39th game is supposed to work and still be fair to everybody.

It's a really good video, as is the work it's based on by Adam Crafton in the Athletic.

At the same time, I think the FA and Wembley pose a ridiculously complicated issue if English football wanted to go abroad. It would probably be near impossible to move a regular season game from the UK to the US without causing riots first and foremost, both at fan and club level. The obvious candidates for moveable games are neutral games (FA Cup finals, League Cup final, Charity Shield) but having big games at Wembley is core to the FA's business so it's not something they're going to have any interest in going for.

Where does that leave the space for a US game to be played by Premier League teams that isn't just a glorified friendly? I can't find where it could work for football in this country (whereas the lack of a devoted neutral national stadium in Spain, Italy offers less of a roadblock).
 


crodonilson

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Jan 17, 2005
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Lyme Regis
That feels a lot like just giving the top 3 teams a bonus 3 points in the table.

It probably is, but given the top sides from this season are likely to be the top sides again next season it is the 'fairest' way to do it, all of the sides who have competed at the top this season have easier games so none of them has significant advantages over their rivals for the league/top 4 etc and it's done on some sort of merit system from where you finished in the previous season. It probably helps the attractiveness of the games for a foreign audience too, they're not likely to be particularly interested in the sides promoted but will be interested in the bigger sides. Even the mediocre middle of the table sides will carry some support and those fixtures should be really competitive, if it was done on this seasons current placings you would probably say our game v Bournemouth would be the hardest sell.
 




A1X

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I'd guess it would be decided on previous season finishes, so 1st v 20th (or team coming up via the play-offs), 2nd v 19th (or Championship runners up) and so on. The games would be neutral venues so all teams would still have equal numbers of home and away games. So based on current league positions would give you:

Arsenal v Leeds?
Man City v Ipswich
Liverpool v Leicester
Villa v Forest
Tottingham v Brentford
Newcastle v Everton
Chelsea v Fulham
Man U v Wolverhampton
West H'aa'm v Palace
Brighton v Bournemouth
I would imagine the plastic 6 wouldn't like that as they were hoping to make a fortune flogging tickets to the games between each other
 


Mellotron

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I can definitely see Community Shield moving overseas.
 


crodonilson

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I would imagine the plastic 6 wouldn't like that as they were hoping to make a fortune flogging tickets to the games between each other
They will still make a fortune on those sort of fixtures. People, especially the Yanks would be foolish enough to pay premium prices.
 




Official Old Man

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Aug 27, 2011
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Brighton
I'd guess it would be decided on previous season finishes, so 1st v 20th (or team coming up via the play-offs), 2nd v 19th (or Championship runners up) and so on. The games would be neutral venues so all teams would still have equal numbers of home and away games. So based on current league positions would give you:

Arsenal v Leeds?
Man City v Ipswich
Liverpool v Leicester
Villa v Forest
Tottingham v Brentford
Newcastle v Everton
Chelsea v Fulham
Man U v Wolverhampton
West H'aa'm v Palace
Brighton v Bournemouth
Are you saying these would be an extra '39th' game? If so that would favour the top teams who get to play lower teams whilst Brighton get a mid table team.
If this is included in the fixtures, ie NOT a 39th game, then the lower teams get to miss out on a visit to a top ground.
PS Do you think Leeds will get promoted? My money is on the Saints.
 




SeagullinExile

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Sep 10, 2010
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working group established…the wheels are turning…


That headline should read -

FIFA to explore how much cash they’d cream off by moving domestic matches abroad.
 








macbeth

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Jan 3, 2018
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there’s a very dystopian (and admittedly unlikely) outcome here where you effectively get cities overseas bidding to host premier league games. eventually, with the money that would generate, most games in the season would be up for grabs. pl would probably set a limit that a minimum of, say, 30% had to be played at that clubs’ home stadium, but the rest could be held wherever. and then you end up with a club in a smaller place, say us, unable to outbid a chennai or orlando to host our own home games
 




Bry Nylon

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Jul 21, 2003
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...and then you end up with a club in a smaller place, say us, unable to outbid a chennai or orlando to host our own home games
I suppose the upside of a 'home' game being staged in Orlando is the possibility of getting home sooner.
 


studio150

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Oh joy, Brighton v Bournemouth coming to you live from the 50,000 capacity Aloha Stadium in Halawa, Honolulu
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

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So my NFL team (Green Bay Packers) came to London 18 months ago - and I went to the game (v New York Giants)

How is that so different to BHA playing in the States?
 


studio150

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So my NFL team (Green Bay Packers) came to London 18 months ago - and I went to the game (v New York Giants)

How is that so different to BHA playing in the States?
for a start NFL is a franchise based team competition, where the team can up sticks and move elsewhere, there is no relegation, winners are based on a play off system, so having an unbalanced game at a venue overseas has very limited impact....
 




Jackthelad

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Mar 31, 2010
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It’s bad for the MLS as well. Saudi is where they really want it to go
In future for stupid amounts of money. Modern football gets worse and worse.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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So my NFL team (Green Bay Packers) came to London 18 months ago - and I went to the game (v New York Giants)

How is that so different to BHA playing in the States?
are there 50k fans waiting for BHA vs Wolves in Green Bay? there might be a crowd for Manchester or London clubs derby in a large footballing city, like the NFL setup, but we know they dont want to do one off games. so they'll look for this silly 39th game instead.

meanwhile FA Cup replays get dropped and we have ever more Internationals games being shoehorned in for FIFA/UEFA.
 


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