[Politics] Natalie Elphic defects to labour

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Pinkie Brown

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Thunder Bolt said:
I’m not sure she has any core beliefs. When her husband was accused of sexual assaults by several women, she swore blind she would stand by him. Then when he was tried, convicted and jailed, she was going to divorce him.
She was one of a trio of Tory MPs who circulated a doctored video of Keir Starmer, only taking it down when threatened with legal action.
She decided to take her husband’s seat at the by election using his name (by changing her mind on the divorc) so was elected by ranting about boat people, but not backing the P&O workers.

I am astonished that Keir Starmer has allowed her to cross the floor, as I wouldn’t trust her one iota.
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Add to that, when she was suspended from parliament after her and four other tory MP's attempted to 'influence' the judge of her husbands upcoming trial by using parliamentary headed stationery. A repugnant individual who has no place in a Labour Party despite the political embarrassment to Sunak. This is a serious misjudgment from Starmer.
 


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The Labour party has defended its decision to welcome former Tory rightwinger Natalie Elphicke into the party.

At a post-PMQs briefing, a spokesperson for Keir Starmer said that they were confident that Elphicke shared their values and that there were no skeletons in her cupboard.

Asked if all Labour MPs were happy to have her as a new colleague, the spokesperson said:

It’s a sign of the progress that we’ve made that people recognise that on some of the key challenges facing the country, the Tories have failed.
And here is someone who is willing to make the significant step of switching across to Keir Starmer’s changed Labour party, and that’s something we’re very happy to see.
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When it was put him that Elphicke had in the past been reprimanded for trying to influence a judge with a letter using House of Commons notepaper (in a case involving her ex-husband), the spokesperson said:

All of those issues have been dealt with previously, both in parliament and in public.
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And asked about Elphicke saying in the past that her ex-husband, who was jailed for two years for sexual assualt, was punished for being attractive and attracted to women, the spokesperson said:

Natalie can speak to her own remarks on that and she has spoken extensively about that case, and I don’t have anything to add to what she has said on that subject.
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www.theguardian.com

Labour defends welcoming rightwing Tory MP Natalie Elphicke into party – UK politics live

Natalie Elphicke said she was defecting to Labour due to ‘broken promises of Rishi Sunak’s tired and chaotic government’
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
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macbeth said:
they’re both horrible parties and i hate them both.
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Sorry to hear that.

A lifetime of political opposition and disappointment awaits you.
 




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Uneasy about this; has the defecting Tory MP finally realise just how cruel and incompetent the Tories are, or do they now think that Starmer's Labour Party has moved sufficiently Right-wards (with so many progressive policies abandoned in the last year) that they won't feel too out of place on the Labour benches?
 


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Herr Tubthumper said:
My point is there is little, or no, reasoning behind your constant sniping at the Labour Party. You make a snide comment then disappear when challenged about it. It's boring, really boring. I have no issue with different opinions per se, none at all. But opinions without any reasoning or explanation count for little.
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Here's a possible solution to the relentless tomfoolery.

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Sadly you won't see the back of him because you will still get oodles of 'ironic' thumbs ups.
The exact opposite of empathetic and collegiate.
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Peteinblack said:
Uneasy about this; has the defecting Tory MP finally realise just how cruel and incompetent the Tories are, or do they now think that Starmer's Labour Party has moved sufficiently Right-wards (with so many progressive policies abandoned in the last year) that they won't feel too out of place on the Labour benches?
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I think this is someone leaving the room who has decided to spend time with the least smelly and mad folk, on the way out, and as far away as possible from the oafs who do nothing other than fart and scratch their arses.

Metaphorically speaking.
 
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studio150 said:
At this rate of defections it won't be long before Rishi is leading a minority Government.
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Not sure how this works but if Sunak's majority diminishes to the point where he wouldn't have a working majority he would be forced (under normal circumstances) to call an election.

Technically they should have called an election a long time ago since his party are so dividied and they struggle to get anything through parliament but these shyters will just cling on to the bitter end
 




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I haven't read the thread but I'm just staggered that Labour has 'welcomed' someone like her. She opportunistically took her husband's seat when he went to jail and has now opportunistically 'defected' when she sees the game's up for the Tories.

I can see Starmer's dilemma. On the one hand, the PR value of a Tory defection. On the other, the need to accommodate her in the Labour Party, and the questions this would raise. He's been badly advised. He's made the wrong choice. It's now HE who's looking just as opportunistic too. What a sorry mess. Who exactly comes out of this with any credit?
 


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Randy McNob said:
Not sure how this works but if Sunak's majority diminishes to the point where he wouldn't have a working majority he would be forced (under normal circumstances) to call an election.

Technically they should have called an election a long time ago since his party are so dividied and they struggle to get anything through parliament but these shyters will just cling on to the bitter end
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Not sure what the current majority is but it started as 82 so I doubt it's anywhere near the tipping point yet.
 




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nicko31 said:
El "thick"...

Labour should have said, thanks but no thanks

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I'm not going to argue with that.

It will be interesting to see who, if anyone, will weaponize this over the coming months.

I predict 'Reform UK', The Greens, the Liberals, the SNP and Galloway's lot whose name escapes me (is it 'Jihad Indefatigability'?).

I'm not sure how the Tories can possibly weaponize it. Which is the main part of the calculation I suspect.

Interesting times.

(But I am feeling slightly dirty, and will continue to do so till she does the equivalent of telling me that it is all OK "because I'm not your 'real' aunty, just a family friend" :facepalm: ).
 




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