[News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

:J) said:

Interview with Israeli spokesman David Mencer by Norway Broadcasting Corporation’s Yama Wolasmal:



(Incidental and completely unrelated news snippet: David Mencer used to be a Director of Labour Friends of Israel)

Meanwhile, when some British journalists try to do their jobs with any kind of integrity - they are seemingly relieved of their positions. Odd that.

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borat said:

London march on Sunday was well attended

Speeches in Hyde Park made by Corbyn and a moving speech by Holocaust survivor Stephen Kapos.

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borat said:

Absolutely shocking how easily and frequently Israeli officials spew lies to cover up their heinous crimes. The fact that David Mencer was director of Labour Friends of Israel tells you all you need to know about Labour and its warped relationship with Israel.

On your second point, there seems to be quite a few journalists being fired for asking inconvenient questions - other than the ones you mentioned, Mehdi Hasan was fired from MSNBC for seemingly 'inconvenient' reporting.

He set up his own media company https://www.youtube.com/@zeteo_news

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rippleman said:

Might explain why Starmer refused to call for a ceasefire for so long. After the UN called for a ceasefire, he couldn't really hold off much longer could he?

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rippleman said:

Thank you for posting this. What a brave, eloquent fella. Hopefully that will put the couple of apologists for the extreme right-wing state of Israel back in their box.

You have, however, mentioned the "C word" so we can expect HWT along shortly for a rant

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aolstudios said:

You're aware that the last dozen plus ceasefire offers have been refused by Hamas?
Also that their leaders have declared that Oct 7th will continue "forever"
That there was a ceasefire in place on October 7th

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jackanada said:

The thing about offers is they need to be reasonable.
Can I have your house for £10?

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:J) said:

Interview with Israeli spokesman David Mencer by Norway Broadcasting Corporation’s Yama Wolasmal:



(Incidental and completely unrelated news snippet: David Mencer used to be a Director of Labour Friends of Israel)

Meanwhile, when some British journalists try to do their jobs with any kind of integrity - they are seemingly relieved of their positions. Odd that.

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aolstudios said:

Well, they were mostly brokered by Egypt and/or Qatar.
Have you had a look at any of them?

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armchairclubber said:

Not everyone is sitting on their hands

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aolstudios said:

I think he's more in favour of cutting them off

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Zeberdi said:

What a nauseating man he is - talking in capital letters, over demonstrative and annoyingly hyperbolic but he does make some very valid points

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armchairclubber said:

Personally I think there's been so much apathy, wilful ignorence, sitting on the fence and in our own democracy visions of Starmer as Saviour for several long months that I find it refreshing that another generation may not feel the same.

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armchairclubber said:

Personally I think there's been so much apathy, wilful ignorence, sitting on the fence and in our own democracy visions of Starmer as Saviour for several long months that I find it refreshing that another generation may not feel the same.

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Zeberdi said:

Maybe you haven’t spent enough time on this thread then - no one sitting on the fence here or thinking Starmar is the great white hope for the Palestinians - one side or the other, and not a lot of wilful ignorance about what is happening in Gaza either. I didn’t mean the actually content of his speech was necessarily nauseating, just the delivery. But I don’t know the man and as you say, he is young, and projecting a rebellious, revolutionary persona is a rite of passage. It seemed a little contrived that’s all.

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Zeberdi said:

What a nauseating man he is - talking in capital letters, over demonstrative and annoyingly hyperbolic but he does make some very valid points

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armchairclubber said:

Spent enough time on this thread? Is there a level you must reach to have an opinion? My comments weren't aimed at this thread in particular, you needn't be so protective.

I think I've probably spent too much time on it btw!

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Zeberdi said:

I think probably you were being a little over protective with your X link. My suggesting that you hadn’t spent enough tim on this thread was a JOKE that is what the laughter emoji was for. I was making a satirical point that the views on this thread were very much the opposite to apathetic or resting in the ‘hope Starmar was the Saviour’ - they have been impossibly polarised at times and very heated. Which actually isn’t a good thing either so no reason why I should feel ‘protective’ and certainly wasn’t suggesting you post more if you want you opinions to be more valid. That would be utterly ridiculous.

The X post is of an extremist making some valid points but an extremist all the same - I don’t feel comfortable with that - and as I said I thought his delivery was contrived - presumably to infuence American students.

I realised you were talking about the public’s response generally. (Although I would have to disagree with you on that tbh - I think the student demonstrations and those over here, the dialogue amongst young people etc has been very much pro-actively supporting Palestinians.)

It is entirely possible to be very much off the fence without resorting to extremism.

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