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[Football] FA Cup semi finals



Guinness Boy

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Bold Seagull said:
Trouble is VAR isn’t accurate enough to make these calls. 2 frames on and the ball is still in contact with the player’s boot as he passes it and the attacker is onside.

The accuracy of this system is dependent on 2 key things:
1. Which frame the operator decides to freeze.
2. Where the operator decides to draw his lines.

The system is therefore defined by the frames per second of the video, and the resolution of the still frame - none of which are that detailed.

The huge flaw is that pick a frame or so on, and the offside lines give you onside. This isn’t accuracy, it’s the guesswork of the operator of what frame they pick.

Personally I think the assistant referee made an excellent onfield call, his positioning is immaculate and with the human eye he couldn’t have made a better call.

But VAR, inaccurate itself as described above overrules a perfectly good decision.

It’s a disgrace that it’s been adopted in a way that says it’s infallible - we can all see it is.
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Yep 💯
 






Publius Ovidius

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GrizzlingGammon said:
For more contentious VAR decisions, check the Everton vs Forest game. Two clear penalties not given to Forest.
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I wonder if forest take this to court what the outcome will be
 


BBassic

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Bold Seagull said:
It’s a disgrace that it’s been adopted in a way that says it’s infallible - we can all see it is.
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Yep.

It shouldn't be in use in the FA Cup at all either. If this had been a third round tie at Coventry we'd be celebrating United being dumped out of the cup.

If it can't be used in all ties then it shouldn't be used in any.
 






Deportivo Seagull

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dazzer6666 said:
It’s use of the technology. The offside decision was technically correct and has nothing at all to do with the standard of reffing, but was so marginal it shouldn’t have been allowed. The level of precision applied to offsides is way too scientific (and not supported by the technology which can’t determine precisely when the ball is hit).

More generally, onfield refs are bottling decisions because they know Twatwell and his ilk will watch a dozen replays and still come to a fuxked up decision anyway.
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VAR is a tool that is designed to be operated within a set of parameters. Use it outside of those parameters then it won’t work as advertised. It isn’t a case of being too scientific, just that it’s being used incorrectly and that is down to PGMOL.
 








Washie

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Herr Tubthumper said:
Calm down my friend; you might frighten your guide dog otherwise.
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I have, but i have also pointed out its this attitude that leads to the good refs at grassroots leaving in droves making all the ones still in the game of a lower standard, forcing us to have terrible officiating and officials that will always back a wrong decision now as views like this become more and more common
 




Deportivo Seagull

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There have been a number of discussions around accuracy due to frame rates, camera angles etc which will impact accuracy. Goal line technology works because of fixed camera positions which are calibrated for each goal. That’s accuracy is not possible for the cameras used for VAR.
 




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Deportivo Seagull said:
There have been a number of discussions around accuracy due to frame rates, camera angles etc which will impact accuracy. Goal line technology works because of fixed camera positions which are calibrated for each goal. That’s accuracy is not possible for the cameras used for VAR.
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Precisely……yet they are making decisions based on the frames. It’s a joke.
 


LamieRobertson

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Washie said:
It's been 3 years. Clear and obvious has never been used for offside. This has been discussed countless times.
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Oh I know…and I’ve never joined in those discussions…But it’s what I think it should be …well what I actually want is VAR to disappear…yeah and I know it’s not going to happen..it’ll b interesting to see how this automated stuff works out
 






Guinness Boy

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Washie said:
It's been 3 years. Clear and obvious has never been used for offside. This has been discussed countless times.
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In any game outside one involving a rich, powerful club, that’s level. VAR is only used in the big leagues and big games.

Before level was changed to be onside the game was incredibly dull.
 






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Guinness Boy said:
Scrap VAR and scrap it now. Pretty much all fans agree on this. Media and authorities love it but it’s OUR game, isn’t it?
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season 4 smh GIF by Outlander
 






Nobby

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Honestly, this is nonsense. They could easily have overturned the penalty decision for 3-3.

But the offside law is an absolute crock of shit once you start pretending you can judge it accurately enough that someone’s toenail can ruin one of the greatest moments in FA Cup history.
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Poor ol Cov fans forgetting not to celebrate- must have been tough.
We all know not to bother
 


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