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Deportivo Seagull

Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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The issue is not VAR in terms of technology. VAR has just highlighted how appalling bad English referees are. The standard of refereeing has been going down the shitter since before Covid. Blaming VAR merely takes the focus on the real problem which are the idiots trying to use it.
 


















dazzer6666

dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Deportivo Seagull said:
The issue is not VAR in terms of technology. VAR has just highlighted how appalling bad English referees are. The standard of refereeing has been going down the shitter since before Covid. Blaming VAR merely takes the focus on the real problem which are the idiots trying to use it.
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It’s use of the technology. The offside decision was technically correct and has nothing at all to do with the standard of reffing, but was so marginal it shouldn’t have been allowed. The level of precision applied to offsides is way too scientific (and not supported by the technology which can’t determine precisely when the ball is hit).

More generally, onfield refs are bottling decisions because they know Twatwell and his ilk will watch a dozen replays and still come to a fuxked up decision anyway.
 






Bold Seagull

Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
29,832
Hove
oldboyroy said:
Gutted for Coventry and they deserved to win. There has been games this season where VAR has given onside when it looked off and vice versa. Today, it was slightly offside and we all hoped it wasn't but very close and I hope the very marginals go in favour of the attacker in future.
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Trouble is VAR isn’t accurate enough to make these calls. 2 frames on and the ball is still in contact with the player’s boot as he passes it and the attacker is onside.

The accuracy of this system is dependent on 2 key things:
1. Which frame the operator decides to freeze.
2. Where the operator decides to draw his lines.

The system is therefore defined by the frames per second of the video, and the resolution of the still frame - none of which are that detailed.

The huge flaw is that pick a frame or so on, and the offside lines give you onside. This isn’t accuracy, it’s the guesswork of the operator of what frame they pick.

Personally I think the assistant referee made an excellent onfield call, his positioning is immaculate and with the human eye he couldn’t have made a better call.

But VAR, inaccurate itself as described above overrules a perfectly good decision.

It’s a disgrace that it’s been adopted in a way that says it’s infallible - we can all see it is.
 


Kosh

Kosh

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Jul 14, 2003
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Jeremiah said:
So for the disallowed Cov goal imagine no VAR - either

1. The lino doesn't put his flag up and the game flows on and Cov score and everyone knows immediately that a piece of classic FA history is made

or

2. The lino puts his flag up ,the ref blows and the move doesn't progress - everyone stops and comes back for the offside and the game goes to pens and the offside is never thought of or mentioned again

Which would you prefer - what we got today or either of the possibilities above ?
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Top post.

What we got was a f***ing contrived travesty.

VAR simply put, is the worst thing to happen to the beautiful game since Scott McGleish.
 


dazzer6666

dazzer6666

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Bold Seagull said:
Trouble is VAR isn’t accurate enough to make these calls. 2 frames on and the ball is still in contact with the player’s boot as he passes it and the attacker is onside.

The accuracy of this system is dependent on 2 key things:
1. Which frame the operator decides to freeze.
2. Where the operator decides to draw is lines.

The system is therefore defined by the frames per second of the video, and the resolution of the still frame - none of which of that detailed.

The huge flaw is that pick a frame or so on, and the offside lines give you onside. This isn’t accuracy, it’s the guesswork of the operator of what frame they pick.

Personally I think the assistant referee made an excellent onfield call, his positioning is immaculate and with the human eye he couldn’t have made a better call.

But VAR, inaccurate itself as described above overrules a perfectly good decision.

It’s a disgrace that it’s been adopted in a way that says it’s infallible - we can all see it is.
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Exactly. Simple solution - have thicker lines to allow a margin
 










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oldboyroy

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Oct 10, 2009
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Bold Seagull said:
Trouble is VAR isn’t accurate enough to make these calls. 2 frames on and the ball is still in contact with the player’s boot as he passes it and the attacker is onside.

The accuracy of this system is dependent on 2 key things:
1. Which frame the operator decides to freeze.
2. Where the operator decides to draw his lines.

The system is therefore defined by the frames per second of the video, and the resolution of the still frame - none of which are that detailed.

The huge flaw is that pick a frame or so on, and the offside lines give you onside. This isn’t accuracy, it’s the guesswork of the operator of what frame they pick.

Personally I think the assistant referee made an excellent onfield call, his positioning is immaculate and with the human eye he couldn’t have made a better call.

But VAR, inaccurate itself as described above overrules a perfectly good decision.

It’s a disgrace that it’s been adopted in a way that says it’s infallible - we can all see it is.
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Agree totally. I wonder if it had been disallowed if it was at the other end?.
 




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BN41Albion

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Oct 1, 2017
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Bodian said:
VAR didn't give the penalty - the ref did.
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I know, but Var had the opportunity to overturn and they didn't. I absolutely abhor VAR but I really don't buy the supposed bias towards the big clubs. It's just total shit all round for all clubs.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,722
The Fatherland
Washie said:
Oh do f*** off, as an actual qualified referee, I definitely know better than you. Also, from the angle on the TV it looked offside and I gave my opinion. Yes it was tighter than I thought, but was still offside as my instinct said. You would not have moaned if it was the other way round that United had the goal disallowed.
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Calm down my friend; you might frighten your guide dog otherwise.
 


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