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[Politics] Worst PM since Thatcher
- Thread starter Ethelwulf
- Start date
I wish I had your confidence.
I've had a vote since Major won . . . I've no idea who my local MP was then but I know I didn't vote for him . . . . Having said that, John Major would be a birthday present compared to the last 15 years.
TheJasperCo
Well-known member
What was his role in the 'Dodgy Dossier' revelations and what did he know about the circumstances leading to the death of Dr David Kelly?
Sadly there is . . . . Although rats are leaving the sinking ship at a pace.
Her legacy lives on, and will continue to do so for some years. Decades even
housing . . . . It wasn't a bad idea to encourage and enable families . . . . . But . . . Succession. Reinvestment? Pfhh!
she was great at flogging stuff off and making it look good . . . . . Where's the stock . . . . Even now . . . . Where's the nations stock
? Anyone ? Electricity? Water? ( clean not shit) gas? Social housing? Student accomodation? Do we own any national assets? Aside the parasitic ones!She will always be the devil that bred gernerations of greedy selfish bastards, and Now thanks to Cameron, who's on the same level, we all hate each other.
probably best to bury your head in a findus crispy pancake and blame the French
nicko31
Well-known member
Huge oil revenue out of the North sea and a decade long fire sale of public assets. Where did all the money go?
drew
Drew
But not one court, domestic or international has charged him with being a war criminal?
TheJasperCo
Well-known member
No. No they have not.
drew
Drew
So you agree he isn't a war criminal?
Tubby Mondays
Well-known member
Which of the others on the list wouldn’t have done what he did?
Well....Cameroon used a promise of a referendum (which he thought he would win) to curry votes in a general election from people who would vote tory anyway, plus the Brexit labour wankers who he hoped would switch to help him become PM.
Great plan. OK, referendum then....
But he cocked up the referendum rubric (50:50), But he was PM. Lead on, whatever.
He should have been prepared to lead the country into Brexit if Brexit won.
But instead he f***ed off.
Contemptible dilettante 'leadership'. In every respect.
Not as bad as Blair then, I mean, that's not a war crime is it, dragging the country down a shitty alleyway worse than has been seen since 1941. Just a mere coincidence.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,328
welfare payments and tax cuts.
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drew
Drew
But Blair didn't commit a war crime unless you have some evidence no one else has been able to consider.
jonny.rainbow
Well-known member
- Oct 29, 2005
- 6,612
In Thatcher’s own words, her greatest legacy was Tony Blair and New Labour.
Blair is the worst Prime Minister by miles because he abandoned most of the principles of the party he was leader of.
I didn’t like any of the Tory ones but at least they remained true to Tory principles.
Blair is the worst Prime Minister by miles because he abandoned most of the principles of the party he was leader of.
I didn’t like any of the Tory ones but at least they remained true to Tory principles.
Blair got elected and actually achieved things. Good things that helped thousands if not millions of people.
f***ing hell, if that's against Labour's principles then maybe I'll start voting for one of the other bunches of bastards.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,381
As bad as Truss was, she didn't damage our national institutions (and the Conservatives) like Johnson did.
We are still witnessing the fall out from it.
Johnson's perceived "liberalism" was to ignore personal behaviour in public office. Mainly his own. An individual not only unfit for PM, but totally unfit for public office. A bumbling journalist who ran out of luck.
He's broken the Conservatives for at least a decade. That is his legacy. The worst PM in my lifetime, the worst Conservative leader in my lifetime.
Not that I feel sorry for them, they knew. They all knew. They put that to one side to win an election. How many in party are still clinging onto the myth is remarkable. Well not that remarkable if you realise how the utter chancer enabled such "Johnson deniers".
Nadine Dorries. I repeat Nadine Dorries. The culture secretary who thought Channel Five had been privatised. The culture secretary who sat in front of a select committee and moaned about Channel Four getting public money.
He's a modern day Jeffrey Archer, but unlike Jeffrey Archer got the position he craved.
We are still witnessing the fall out from it.
Johnson's perceived "liberalism" was to ignore personal behaviour in public office. Mainly his own. An individual not only unfit for PM, but totally unfit for public office. A bumbling journalist who ran out of luck.
He's broken the Conservatives for at least a decade. That is his legacy. The worst PM in my lifetime, the worst Conservative leader in my lifetime.
Not that I feel sorry for them, they knew. They all knew. They put that to one side to win an election. How many in party are still clinging onto the myth is remarkable. Well not that remarkable if you realise how the utter chancer enabled such "Johnson deniers".
Nadine Dorries. I repeat Nadine Dorries. The culture secretary who thought Channel Five had been privatised. The culture secretary who sat in front of a select committee and moaned about Channel Four getting public money.
He's a modern day Jeffrey Archer, but unlike Jeffrey Archer got the position he craved.
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- Jan 3, 2012
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Disagree strongly!!!!!!! It’s all her fault!
Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
- 14,882
But that's my point - how could he, when he'd nailed his colours to the pro-EU mast? I can't actually think of a decent analogy, but I'm sure there is one. I still maintain he would've been forced out anyway within months of he'd carried on.
Rdodge30
Well-known member
- Dec 30, 2022
- 441
You are absolutely correct
Cameron knew that the euro sceptics within his party would never rest until he was gone, I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t told as much by the ERG. The only people who wanted him to carry on were remainders who wanted Brexit-Lite
Cameron.
Rest doesn't follow if he wasn't PM
Rest doesn't follow if he wasn't PM